Sponsored by Magellan AI. April Fools is over - so is relying on guesswork. Magellan AI attribution delivers accurate, reliable data for clearer podcast measurement and better ROAS. Optimize your campaigns Exclusive Apple Podcasts remains the #1 app in the US for podcast downloads for the biggest shows, according to new data from Podtrac. In a presentation this morning (keynote stage 9am) at Evolutions in Chicago, our Editor will reveal data showing that - even with YouTube views - Apple is still the largest podcast app out there for the 250 biggest shows. Evolutions, by Podcast Movement, kicked off yesterday with a keynote from Tom Webster - who spoke about the need to convert occasional listeners to more frequent consumers. Organisers say that the event has 1,600 attendees. Magellan AI is not rebranding. Yesterday, Apr 1, they announced a rebrand to Podgellan AI - but it was an April Fool’s joke. “Of course we won't use the word ‘pod’ in our company name,” Magellan AI CEO and co-founder Cameron Hendrix said, adding “Who would do that?” Magellan AI is this month's sponsor of, um, Podnews. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad herePodcast Producer, Editor & Sound Designer — Great editing & sound design isn't a luxury. It's a necessity. Work with a freelancer who just gets it.Pod Engine: 10x Faster Guest Booking — AI-superpowered podcast search, outreach & more. Trusted by top agencies. 14-day free trial.Gold supporters: Buzzsprout,

Sponsored by Podgellan AI. Magellan AI is now Podgellan AI, because every good podcast company starts with “Pod”. Podcast ad measurement, attribution and competitive insights - now with added Pod. The winners of The 2025 Ambies were announced in Chicago - the fifth annual awards for excellence in audio, in a ceremony hosted by Tig Notaro ahead of Podcast Movement Evolutions. Hysterical won Podcast of the Year; Ira Glass was honored with the esteemed Governors Award; and Sam Sanders received the Impact Award. We link to all the winners. In a bold move, Magellan AI has announced a rebrand to Podgellan AI. The podcast advertising intelligence platform tells Podnews that the change reflects a deep commitment to the podcast space. iOS 18.4 is now available as an update for iPhone and iPad. Among many other improvements, the update offers two new home-screen widgets for Apple Podcasts: a “followed show” widget to directly place the Podnews Daily your favourite show’s latest episodes on your home screen; and a library widget to get to your most used sections, like latest episodes or Stations. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad here🎧 Grow Your Podcast On Player FM — Player.FM’s new self-serve ad portal can help you grow your show, boost engagement, and drive downloads with flexible pricing. Book your next campaign now!Listen to "Leaving The Island" from Audiation

Sponsored by CoHost at Evolutions. How do you know if your audience is truly engaged? Fatima Zaidi of CoHost, James Cridland of Podnews, Sharon Taylor of Triton Digital, and Steve Pratt of The Creativity Business will tell you at Evolutions in Chicago. Join us tomorrow at 3.15pm. Exclusive: Hubbard Radio has announced the launch of the Gamut Podcast Network, a dedicated podcast division for the 102 year-old company. “The launch of Gamut is more than a rebrand; it’s a pivotal evolution for our company,” said Ginny Hubbard, CEO of Hubbard Radio; the VP/GM is John Goforth, who joined the company last August. Another snippet of data from Amplifi Media and Coleman Insights: “We asked YouTube podcast consumers which devices they use to tune in. Smartphones remain the top choice at 79%: but the big story is the rise of Smart TVs and computers — each now used by 46% of YouTube podcast consumers.” The State of Video Podcasting 2025 is on Thursday at 9am on the main keynote stage at Evolutions - 24 hours after the Podnews Report Card. Linus Media Group (on YouTube as Linus Tech Tips, among others) shares how the content company makes money. Revenue from YouTube is just 11.6% of total revenue; of that, 37.3% comes from a revenue share from YouTube Premium subscribers, which operates similarly to Spotify’s Partner Program. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad herePodcast Growth & Monetization tips every Thursday! — Subscribe to the FREE Podcasting Business School newsletter and get fresh tips every Thursday for podcast growth, monetization, and online business strategies. Join over 2,800+ Pod Pals on this list.

Sponsored by CoHost. Want more listener insights without switching hosting providers? Explore CoHost's Prefix with in-depth podcast analytics and tracking links starting at just $15/month. Sign up today for a free trial. After criticism from the UK podcast industry, the BBC has said it won’t press ahead with ads in podcasts in the UK, saying that it has “decided to rule out placing adverts around BBC licence-fee funded programmes on third-party podcast platforms in the UK.” The announcement is expected to be confirmed in the BBC Annual Plan next week. Independent podcasters had called the idea “disastrous”. The BBC will still take some advertising in UK podcasts though; Podnews reported last week on a new BBC podcast which will contain ads inside the UK, but is not produced by the public service. The BBC is funded by advertising outside the UK. Exclusive: Frequency Ads has launched a new Premium Publisher Network for host-read ads. Partnering with DAX US, the service aims to make host-read ads as easy to buy as programmatic ads. Popular podcast app Pocket Casts is rolling out “smart folders” next week, which automatically groups shows together. You’ll see them in beta versions of the app now. “Popular podcast app”? Find out quite how popular Pocket Casts is - next week, in the Podnews Report Card; Apr 2 9.00am on the Keynote Stage at Evolutions. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds -

Sponsored by CoHost. Want more listener insights without switching hosting providers? Explore CoHost's Prefix with in-depth podcast analytics and tracking links starting at just $15/month. Sign up today for a free trial. Spotify’s monetisation model for creators, the Spotify Partner Program is to expand to a further nine new countries, eight in Europe. From Apr 29, eligible audio and video creators in France, Belgium, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, Ireland, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and New Zealand can enroll. This means more money for existing partners, too: we’re told that eligible creators earn based on how much Spotify Premium members stream their video content in the markets where the Spotify Partner Program is available; so a US creator will now earn from viewers in these additional countries too. By country population, this grows the total potential audience by 43% (but not all content is equally popular in different countries). YouTube’s Head of Podcasts, Kai Chuck has left the company after a reorganisation. A YouTube spokesperson told TubeFilter: “To better serve podcasters on YouTube, we’re bringing the Podcast Partnerships team together with the News and Civics Partnerships teams. We’re grateful to Kai Chuk for all his contributions over the years.” The News and Civics Partnerships teams are led by Tim Katz, who wrote a blog post about YouTube Podcasts last month. Steven Bartlett’s Flight Studio, which launched last April, is readying a video podcast hosting company, called Flightcast. The developer, who goes under the name Rox Codes,

Sponsored by CoHost. Want more listener insights without switching hosting providers? Explore CoHost's Prefix with in-depth podcast analytics and tracking links starting at just $15/month. Sign up today for a free trial. YouTube is the #1 podcast platform in Japan, according to a new report from Otonal and the Asahi Shimbun Company. A new high of 17.2% of Japanese adults aged 15-69 listen at least once a month; that figure rising to 34% for 15-19 year-olds. Audio in Japan has always seen lower consumption than in other countries. The 17.2% monthly listeners number compares with 55% in the US. Last week was the 100th anniversary of the birth of radio in Japan. Podnews’s Editor, James Cridland, will be on Tokyo radio station J-WAVE on Friday morning to talk about podcasting and radio’s future. Megyn Kelly is to launch her own podcast network. The MK Media network has already signed a number of journalists. Podcast hosting company RSS.com has added automatic Apple Podcasts submission. The feature from Apple, which was launched in Feb, was driven in part by comments in the Podnews Report Card, and makes it easier for new users to get into Apple Podcasts without registering as a user. (The new Report Card is published next week, in a keynote at

Sponsored by CoHost. Want more listener insights without switching hosting providers? Explore CoHost's Prefix with in-depth podcast analytics and tracking links starting at just $15/month. Sign up today for a free trial. YouTube could be switching on dynamic ad insertion, according to a report by Semafor. The report says YouTube “would allow host-read ads to be dynamically inserted and swapped out within individual YouTube videos”, as is already the case for audio podcasts using open RSS. YouTube hasn’t commented. Semafor suggest that Spotify offers this product. It doesn’t; videos on Spotify do not have dynamic ad insertion, and uploading a video episode replaces any audio episode. 427,000 podcasts from members of The Podcast Standards Project now use additional Podcasting 2.0 features, according to a new update. In a blog post, the group encourages co-operation between podcast hosting companies and podcast apps. The post is the first since August last year; it acknowledges the difficulty of making progress, and asks for “killer features” to help move the project forward. Generative audio AI company ai|coustics has raised €5mn (US$5.4mn) in funding. The company is aiming to “bring its AI-powered studio-quality sound to every platform and device”. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad herePodcast Producer, Editor & Sound Designer

Sponsored by CoHost. Want more listener insights without switching hosting providers? Explore CoHost's Prefix with in-depth podcast analytics and tracking links starting at just $15/month. Sign up today for a free trial. Exclusive: New data from The State of Video Podcasting 2025 by Coleman Insights and Amplifi Media, to be unveiled next week at Evolutions (Thu Apr 3, 9-9.30), confirms a major shift in podcast consumption: only 10% of Gen Z podcast consumers never consume video podcasts. It’s not all about video, though - the study also shows 41% of Gen Z podcast consumers only or mostly consume audio podcasts. The whole sample is slightly higher at 46%. The data is from a survey of 1,000 US podcast consumers, including 307 aged 15-29. “But, didn’t you highlight data in Podnews showing the opposite a few weeks ago?” Yes, we did. Conducted very differently, that one showed a high level of audio drama fans, which is a clue as to the difference in results: video podcasts of audio drama isn’t really a thing (well, it is, but it’s called Netflix). And... what is a podcast anyway? Exclusive: What are the 100 best podcasts of all time? Left of Dial Media wants to find out, and launches the 2025 Essential Listening Poll today, with the aim of producing a definitive list from a diverse list of participants, including members of The Podcast Academy and others. You can find out how to get involved on their website. Based in Vancouver and LA, the women-led boutique network Podcast Nation now represents over three dozen shows, the company says. Today, we’ve a look at the co-founders behind the network, the show that kicked off the company, how they grew, and how they’re considering YouTube in the future.

Sponsored by CoHost's analytics. Podcasters need better analytics. Discover where downloads are coming from, how listeners are resonating, and who your audience is with CoHost. Sign up today for a free trial. For the first time, The Infinite Dial from Edison Research has reported that over 50% of Americans are consuming podcasts each month. The research, now in its 27th year, shows that podcasts are consumed by 55% of Americans aged 12+. The study has an enlarged survey size and now asks about “watching” podcasts as well as “listening”. (Podcasts grew whatever question was asked). The monthly splits show that video podcasts are still trailing audio podcasts, with 48% saying they’d listened to a podcast in the last month, with only 37% having watched one. The webinar presentation was co-presented by Edison Research VP Megan Lazovick, and Podnews Editor, James Cridland. You can watch it here, as well as download the report. First look: Sam Sanders will be honored with The Podcast Academy's Impact Award at The Ambies on Mar 31. The host of The Sam Sanders Show was praised by Christy Mirabal, the chairperson of TPA, as having the “ability to challenge perspectives, celebrate culture in all its complexity, and make audiences feel truly seen”. In the Boston Globe, New England’s 50 fastest-growing companies includes podcast production and marketing agency The Podglomerate. Congratulations to them! > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds -

Sponsored by CoHost's analytics. Podcasters need better analytics. Discover where downloads are coming from, how listeners are resonating, and who your audience is with CoHost. Sign up today for a free trial. Evolutions has announced two new keynotes for the event in Chicago IL, USA, from Mar 31 to Apr 3. Hosts of The Fantasy Footballers, Jason Moore and Mike Wright, will reveal their cross-platform strategy for audience growth and monetization—valuable lessons for creators and industry professionals alike on harnessing passionate communities and building sustainable media businesses. Evolutions says “Their journey from podcast pioneers to running one of the largest independent sports media companies in the world exemplifies the transformative power and unique opportunities within podcasting.” Just as showbiz and impressive, the Editor of Podnews, James Cridland, returns to reveal the Podnews Report Card, and uncover what podcast publishers really think of the big platforms. The Report Card is in its fourth year; last year, Apple Podcasts was the #1 platform - but is there a challenger this year? The code PODNEWS will save money on selected passes if you book this week. Has the total number of listeners to podcasts increased over the last twelve months? We’ve not got long to wait - Edison Research’s Infinite Dial 2025 will be revealed in a free webinar at 2pm Eastern this afternoon. Our Editor, James Cridland, is co-presenting the figures, alongside VP Megan Lazovick. The 20th People’s Choice Podcast Awards is open for registration. The awar

Sponsored by CoHost's analytics. Podcasters need better analytics. Discover where downloads are coming from, how listeners are resonating, and who your audience is with CoHost. Sign up today for a free trial. Law&Crime, a legal and true crime network, has launched a new show - as an exclusive on Wondery+. Luigi will launch on March 24, following the case of Luigi Mangione, who is accused of killing a health insurance company CEO - and asks whether it’s a standard murder case, or a new cultural moment. Radiotopia from PRX released its new shows for Q2/25 - three podcasts will join the network, alongside a new series from Song Exploder’s Hrishikesh Hirway. California loves Conan O’Brien; Colorado prefers Anderson Cooper; while Massachusetts likes Ellen Pompeo. That’s the findings of the most searched-for celebrity-hosted podcasts in the US, according to podcast host RSS.com. The data also includes podcasts hosted by athletes. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad herePodcast Producer, Editor & Sound Designer — Great editing & sound design isn't a luxury. It's a necessity. Work with a freelancer who just gets it.🎧 Grow Your Podcast On Player FM — Player.FM’s new self-serve ad portal can help you grow your show, boost engagement, and drive downloads with flexible pricing. Book your next campaign now!To

Sponsored by CoHost's analytics. Podcasters need better analytics. Discover where downloads are coming from, how listeners are resonating, and who your audience is with CoHost. Sign up today for a free trial. YouTube is adding a dedicated “Podcast” tab on the main screen of its Android TV app, thus highlighting more podcast content to YouTube’s biggest number of users - TV is now the primary device for YouTube viewing in the US. As with its podcasts page on the web, though, it contains plenty of content which appears to have been automatically marked as being a podcast, including news reports. YouTube is currently “the US’s preferred podcast service”, said Edison Research in October. It unveils its latest Infinite Dial study this Thursday in a free webinar, co-presented by Edison’s Megan Lasovick, and Podnews Editor, James Cridland. One of us doesn’t own a single pair of bluetooth headphones. Podscribe rankings for March show that The MeidasTouch Podcast has almost twice the downloads and views of Joe Rogan (121mn vs 64mn). Edison Research has launched a Download Metrics service, partnering with SoundStack. Edison says that

Sponsored by CoHost's analytics. Podcasters need better analytics. Discover where downloads are coming from, how listeners are resonating, and who your audience is with CoHost. Sign up today for a free trial. When trying to take stock of your podcast network’s numbers, it can be irritating logging into multiple platforms across the internet to put all your consumption data together. A new service called Podstock has launched, to give one view of that data, for shows and networks. CEO and co-founder Michael Paretzky, who led podcast analytics and strategy at Audacy, writes that he hopes the podcast industry can become more efficient with the tool. Podcasthon started last weekend, with more than 1,700 shows signed up to do a special episode for a charity or cause. There’s a big list on their website, and it runs until Friday. It’s the third year for Podcasthon, and its biggest ever. How many downloads does a popular branded podcast, which earns more than $100,000 in ad revenue, get? Writing on LinkedIn, Sam Parr, the founder of Hampton, has shared download numbers and details of Moneywise, a personal finance podcast for high net worth people. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad hereLet's be Pod

Sponsored by CoHost's Tracking Links. Discover what drives podcast downloads with CoHost's Tracking Links, a Chartable SmartLink alternative. Trusted by leading creators, brands, and agencies. Sign up for a free 7-day trial. Michelle Obama and her brother Craig Robinson appeared on-stage yesterday at SXSW to record a live episode of their newly launched podcast IMO. They appeared at the Austin Convention Center with Dr. Laurie Santos, psychology professor and host of The Happiness Lab. SXSW had a renewed focus on podcasting this year. JAR Audio and Sounds Profitable covered The Power of Branded Podcasts in a webinar and a freely downloadable study. 43% of Americans 18+ would likely listen to a podcast about a favourite brand or product, the study says. Exclusive: 911 Podcasts has revealed the cast for the second season of sci-fi thriller podcast Cascadia. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad hereBiz & Legal Fundamentals–Don't Wait! Free Workshop — What if getting the "legal stuff" for your podcast was fast, easy and do-it-yourself-able? Join The Podcast Lawyer™ Gordon Firemark for this free online workshop. Don't miss this! Register Now. Your Podcast Deserves Better Sponsors. — You’ve built an engaged audience—now it’s time to monetize the right way. At BackBeat Media, we connect independent podcasters with sponsors that truly fit their shows.

Sponsored by CoHost's Tracking Links. Discover what drives podcast downloads with CoHost's Tracking Links, a Chartable SmartLink alternative. Trusted by leading creators, brands, and agencies. Sign up for a free 7-day trial. Video or audio podcasts? According to Gen Z podcast fans (13-28 year-olds), video is skibidi and audio is slay - they overwhelmingly prefer audio podcasts, according to a new survey from podcast hosting company Transistor. 76% primarily listen to audio podcasts, with 18% consuming a mix of audio and video, and just 6% primarily watching video podcasts, according to the global survey. Transistor also finds that Spotify is the most-used podcast app for Gen Z (56%), with YouTube at 21% and Apple Podcasts at 10%. This mirrors findings in separate studies from Morning Consult and music apps in Edison Research’s Infinite Dial last year. Speaking of which: The Infinite Dial® 2025 will be revealed on Mar 20 in a free webinar, hosted by Edison Research’s Megan Lazovick and Podnews’s Editor, James Cridland. Apple announced podcast transcriptions within Apple Podcasts just over a year ago, and the company says it has now completed creating transcripts for all previously published episodes across the 13 supported languages. That means that more than 100 million episodes in Apple Podcasts have transcripts now available. (The company also allows creators to supply their own transcripts, if preferred). Leave the laptop at home - Zoom has released the PodTrak P2, a portable recorder for USB microphones. The product includes background noise reduction, and contains a built-in dynamic compressor. The $99 unit can record up to four simultaneous tracks to an SD card.

Sponsored by CoHost's Tracking Links. Discover what drives podcast downloads with CoHost's Tracking Links, a Chartable SmartLink alternative. Trusted by leading creators, brands, and agencies. Sign up for a free 7-day trial. Pocket Casts has opened its web player to everyone. You don’t need an account to listen - here’s our daily podcast to try it out. You can also download Mac and Windows desktop apps, too - and if you sign in, you can rate shows and store your favourites, and keep tabs of what you’ve listened-to (which syncs to the app, too). Until now, it was behind a paywall, and only available to Pocket Casts Plus users. The company’s press release includes significant promotion of the benefits of open RSS. “The future of podcasting shouldn’t be locked behind walled gardens,” it says; “podcasts belong to the people, not corporations,” adding that “Podcasting is one of the last open corners of the internet, and we’re here to keep it that way.” We’re linking to the Pocket Casts web player from our podcast pages, like this for The Joe Rogan Experience. One way to link programmatically is to use the Apple iTunes ID, like https://pca.st/itunes/1325018583 - this will also open the Pocket Casts app if it’s installed on mobile. The Pocket Casts web player is not (yet?) optimised for mobile, and doesn’t show transcripts. An Apple Podcasts web player was launched last year - and while it, too, doesn’t show transcripts, it works flawlessly on mobile: especially when installed as an app on Android. As

Sponsored by CoHost's Tracking Links. Discover what drives podcast downloads with CoHost's Tracking Links, a Chartable SmartLink alternative. Trusted by leading creators, brands, and agencies. Sign up for a free 7-day trial. It’s everyone’s nightmare: a podcast where everyone is talking over one another. It’s one of the most irritating things for listeners, and it makes life almost impossible for podcast editors. AI can now help with that - AudioShake has launched a tool to separate overlapping voices - there is a demo in the release - and the tool is already integrated into Wondercraft. Exclusive: HerMoney has partnered with Evergreen and Rhapsody Voices for sales and distribution. The show is hosted by Jean Chatzky, and marks an expansion of Evergreen’s business podcasts channel. The show was previously with Airwave. Podcast production tool Alitu now records video. “When you're done, you'll get an MP4 download with all participant videos neatly arranged in a grid - ready to upload straight to YouTube without any additional editing.” It’s available to every customer with no additional cost. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad hereBoost Your Podcast Downloads 🚀 — Only 20% of podcasters hit 1,000+ downloads per episode. Ready to join them? Grab th

Sponsored by CoHost's Tracking Links. Discover what drives podcast downloads with CoHost's Tracking Links, a Chartable SmartLink alternative. Trusted by leading creators, brands, and agencies. Sign up for a free 7-day trial. JAR Audio has announced the third edition of the Emerging Women in Podcasting Pilot Competition. The winner gets a professionally produced audio podcast pilot episode, with full support from JAR’s talented team. The winner last year was Half Betty. The Daily Wire has announced a new advertising partnership with Perplexity, an AI-driven “answer engine”. Ben Shapiro will use the tool to get “real-time context and facts” about issues he is covering. In Mumbai, India’s biggest podcasting conclave and awards, Podmasters 2025, ends early bird entries later today. (You’ve still eight hours left!) Public voting starts on Friday; the awards event is later this year. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad hereWork with an award winning podcast producer! — I can save you hours of editing so you can focus on making great content. Book a free Discovery Call with me, Niall Mackay, to see how we can help you! “Top-notch podcasts, expertly produced.”Big Networks Ignore You. We Don’t. — You deserve a team that listens. At BackBeat Media, we stay in touch, support your growth, and connect you with sponsors that fit. That’s why some podcasters have been with us for 20+ years.

Sponsored by CoHost. Looking for better podcast analytics? CoHost gives you insight into download sources, audience demographics, episode consumption, and more. Sign up for a free trial today. Miss Me?, the podcast hosted by Lily Allen and Miquita Oliver, performed its first live show yesterday at London’s Hackney Empire - like tonight’s show, it was a sell out. On stage, they announced that their Q&A shows will soon be available on YouTube as well as in podcast form. The show is produced by Persephonica for the BBC. Podtrac has published its rankers for February. The Daily is #1 participating podcast in the US, overtaking NPR News Now. There are plenty of podcasting sessions and events at SXSW next week. Here’s a Google sheet of them all. The iHeartPodcast Awards will be held at the event next Monday. The company has announced a slew of award presenters. It’s also streaming live. > > > Read more of today’s podcast industry news stories on the Podnews website: and get our free daily newsletter.Classifieds - your job or ad hereBiz & Legal Fundamentals–Don't Wait! Free Workshop — What if getting the "legal s

Sponsored by CoHost. Looking for better podcast analytics? CoHost gives you insight into download sources, audience demographics, episode consumption, and more. Sign up for a free trial today. Exclusive: There’s a new comedy podcast network in town. The launch of the WITZ Podcast Network has been announced by entertainment studio Cineverse and comedy club brand The Stand. Cineverse is currently well-known for horror, true crime and entertainment; comedy is the #1 most popular podcast category in the US. Speaking of which, The Golden Lobes awards - celebrating the funniest podcasts, people and moments in the audio industry - are closing shortly - you’ve until the end of Mar 15. Entries are just £25 ($32). Fourthwall, a membership and e-commerce platform for creators, integrated with Spotify recently, and has shared a chart of the number of paid subscribers for one podcast before and after enabling the feature. Here’s a show with it enabled. There’s an “early access” button which links your Spotify account to your Fourthwall membership, in a browser. Other platforms supported by Spotify Open Access include Memberful, Supporting Cast, Substack and Patreon. Spotify does not take a cut.