Robert Skvarla joins us to discuss pigeon-guided bombs, CIA spy cats, and the animal trainers who brought behaviorism into the intelligence business. We talk Skinner, MKUltra, and Discordian pranksters, all following the ambition to turn living things into programmable machines.Read Neither Confirm Nor Deny by Robert SkvarlaHit the tip line: (646) 801-1129 | tips@trueanon.comDiscover more episodes at podcast.trueanon.com