Long before Unplugged delivered their first phone, they were under scrutiny because of it's founders. And while people can hear from co-founder Erik Prince across many big podcasts such as Tucker Carlson and Shawn Ryan shows, one of the co-founders has not spoken to any press. On this episode, Andres is joined by Eran Karpen, Chief Technology Officer and co-founder of Unplugged to hear his story for the first time. Also joining the episode is Liran Stein, Chief Operating Officer of Unplugged. Together with Eran, they both talk about the history of Unplugged, their core values, how they're delivering a privacy and security focused product, and respond to numerous questions including allegations raised by one of the leaders in the Privacy OS Space: GrapheneOS. Learn more about Unplugged at www.Unplugged.com All references are available on the show notes at www.TheAndresSegovia.com