Watch the bonus show w/ Andy & John on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjonesFormer CIA Spies Andrew Bustamente & John Kiriakou debate American politics, the 2024 presidential election, Donald Trump, Israel, Russia, privacy laws, and whistleblowers.SPONSORShttps://hims.com/danny - Start your FREE online visit today.https://shopmando.com - Use code DANNY for $5 off your starter pack.KIRIAKOU LINKS:John's Substack: https://johnkiriakou.substack.comFollow John on X: https://x.com/johnkiriakou BUSTAMANTE LINKS:Find your Spy Superpower: https://yt.everydayspy.com/DannyJonesPodcast Follow Andy on YouTube: https://youtube.com/@Andrew-BustamanteExplore Spy School: https://everydayspy.comJoin the podcast: https://youtube.com/@EverydaySpyPodcastFOLLOW DANNY JONEShttps://www.instagram.com/dannyjoneshttps://twitter.com/jonesdannyOUTLINE00:00 - Guantanamo prisoners plea deal08:16 - Andrew Bustamante's & John Kiriakou's careers13:20 - American ideals vs. the law23:53 - How the world really works27:18 - Framework that governs America34:31 - Deep state's election influence40:58 - Kamala Harris50:46 - Will Trump abolish the CIA?01:06:49 - Trump's shooter01:19:53 - Venezuela01:28:08 - Kiriakou's regret about whistleblowing01:41:48 - Edward Snowden: criminal or hero?01:50:07 - How the law interferes with our independence01:59:23 - Why Kiriakou's work with Russian state media02:13:17 - Israeli spies in America02:24:21 - Hamas is a red herring02:34:45 - WW302:42:25 - Hezbollah02:47:50 - China Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices