Sometimes it takes an outsider's perspective to bring clarity to the needs of an industry you work in every day. That’s why Ben asked his long-time friend, former co-worker, and now SAAS leader Steve Benjamins to weigh in on the state of tech in the charity world. The two also take a deep dive into the unique benefits and challenges of four-day work weeks and remote working environments. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in... Getting to know Steve Benjamins and his career journey [0:45] How Steve built multiple tech products [8:06] The impact of tech entering the charity world [13:00] Makers, managers, and building trust in changing work environments [21:27] The power of in-person connection in a mostly remote world [28:41] Tactical advice for social media and final thoughts [38:53] Resources & People Mentioned Email Frontier FM YOUR fundraising questions at junkmail@frontier.io!  Maker's Schedule, Manager's Schedule  Site Builder Report MBA-ish Atlist Connect with Steve Benjamins Follow Steve on Twitter Visit Steve’s website Connect With Frontier Follow Benjamin Johnson on LinkedIn  Follow Matt Hussey on LinkedIn  Follow Megan McCaffery on LinkedIn  Follow Becca Gust on LinkedIn Website: https://Frontier.io Frontier on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/frontiermarketingco/