The CPG Guys are joined in this  episode by Mike Wysong, CEO of CARE Pharmacies, Inc., a growing pharmacy network having served communities like your own for more than 64 years. CARE Pharmacies combines the quality of a trusted local pharmacy with the growth and stability of a national organization. With over 130 pharmacies nationwide and growing, CARE understands its patients, their special needs, prescriptions, local community health concerns, and the importance of personalized CARE - the building blocks to a healthy family and a strong local community.Follow Mike on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-wysong-a01626b/Follow CARE online at: https://www.carepharmacies.com/Mike answers these questions:What is the biggest lesson from those early days carrying the bag that you still lean on today as a CEO? What was that first fundamental structural or cultural shift you had to make to change that trajectory? How do you get independent owners to genuinely align on shared procurement, brand messages, and technology without stripping away that local entrepreneurship that makes them special? How does a cooperative structure create the necessary scale to let local community pharmacies win on price? From your seat, how can consumer product groups (CPGs) and OTC manufacturers better bridge those gaps to collaborate with a regional pharmacy layout like CARE? What are the top criteria or data-backed insights an emerging brand needs to bring to you today to earn shelf space over a legacy CPG giant? For emerging wellness or OTC brands listening to this show, what's your advice on the sales function—should they try to go it alone, or do they need to hire a specialized broker who truly understands regional drug chains? How are you helping independent pharmacies roll out complex tech, health informatics, and AI tools without eroding the high-touch, hyper-local intimacy that defines community pharmacy? As baby boomers choose to remain in their homes longer, how does the role of the community pharmacy transform from a simple script dispensary into an essential connector of the home health ecosystem? How critical is having a real-time view of inventory and fulfillment data to protecting your owners' bottom lines?

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Bob Nolan, SVP of Growth Science at Conagra Brands. Conagra’s portfolio of iconic and emerging food brands continues to evolve to offer contemporary choices for every occasion. Follow Bob on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-nolan-938b726/Follow Conagra Brands online at: https://www.conagrabrands.com/Bob answers these questions:What was the "breaking point" where you realized that asking consumers what they wanted was actually leading the company toward failed launches?In the context of your CAGNY 2026 presentation, how do you define the "Validation Trap," and why is it so dangerous for legacy CPG brands today?One of your biggest wins was identifying the "Bowl" trend (Healthy Choice Power Bowls) via behavioral data while the rest of the industry was still testing "Trays." How would traditional validation have killed that multi-million dollar insight?If you’ve cut traditional testing to zero, how do you now "pre-flight" a major innovation like the Rebel Roots Tallow Sticks or the Dolly Parton line without the safety net of a focus group?How does AI-driven "Demand Science" replace the human element of traditional market research? At CAGNY, you spoke about demand science as a key growth driver. How does moving away from "validation" allow Conagra to be more "provocative" and take risks that traditional research would have deemed "too polarizing"?You use data from Whole Foods and Sprouts to predict what will happen in Kroger and Walmart two years later. Is the "Natural Channel" your new version of a test market, and how does that data-flow work?You’ve positioned Conagra as a beneficiary of GLP-1 drugs rather than a victim. How did behavioral science—rather than consumer surveys—help you realize that these users aren't eating less of everything, but are actually pivoting toward specific nutrient-dense frozen options?Validation takes months; social trends move in days. How has the "Death of Validation" increased your speed-to-market? Can you give us an example of an "idea-to-shelf" timeline that would have been impossible under the old model?For

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:Walmart resultsTarget resultsGrocery isn’t keeping upKroger growth opportunitiesCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

This is a crossover episode with Wendy Liebmann, CEO and Chief Shopper at WSL Strategic and host of the Future Shop podcast.Follow Wendy on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendyliebmannFollow WSL Strategic Retail online at: https://wslstrategicretail.com/Follow Future Shop on Apple Podcasts at: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/future-shop-podcast-with-wsl/id1498794016Follow Future Shop on Spotify at: https://open.spotify.com/show/5147LMxl6Y1duhPahtPOnr?si=BBEYheSMR3K27zZ_7JNrZQIn this episode of Future Shop, Wendy Liebmann sits down with the industry’s most plugged-in duo, Peter V.S. Bond and Sri Rajagopalan (The CPG Guys), to dissect a retail landscape currently in the throes of a "hot mess" transformation. They navigate the complex collision of agentic AI, the shifting power of retail media, and a growing leadership talent crisis. From why Target is struggling to the "intransigence" of Trader Joe's e-commerce stance, this conversation reveals why the old rules of retail no longer apply in a world where 100% of purchases are digitally influenced. Highlights:The AI Pivot: Why brand websites are shifting from consumer journeys to LLM data repositories. The Retail Media Paradox: How budget silos are making retail media counterproductive for merchants. Talent Gaps: The urgent need for C-suite leaders to understand TikTok and social trends, not just P&L management. Store Evolution: Why the physical store must pivot to "high discovery" perimeter experiences while center-store moves online. Who’s Winning & Not:  Retailers and brands who recognize why old rules don’t apply.CPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea byRaj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye:

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Sammi Zola and Pete Fox from Haleon plus Andrew Butz from Kroger Precision Marketing.This episode was recorded at 84.51 in Cincinnati, Ohio.Follow Sammi on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthakliff/Follow Pete on Linkedin at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pete-fox-91b57/Follow Andrew on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbutz/Follow Haleon online at: http://haleon.comFollow KPM on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/krogerprecisionmarketingFollow KPM online at: http://www.krogerprecisionmarketing.comThey answer these questions:Tell us who you are, what your role is, and what ‘turning insights into action’ means in practical terms from where you sit.From a category strategy standpoint, what’s driving that? And Sammi, how is changing media consumption behavior adding fuel to that fire?How has the job of category insights actually changed in the last year at Haleon? As your team builds out activation plans, what separates purchase data that is genuinely actionable from data that is merely informative? How is AI specifically changing your ability to deliver faster, more relevant insights to your brand partners — and what does that look like in practice?What are the most surprising shopper insights your team has surfaced in the past year? Can you share a real moment where faster insights directly changed a media decision mid-flight? Beyond data delivery, how are retail media networks like KPM evolving their role to help brand partners optimize in real time?How are you modernizing your approach to how you leverage retail data in your planning and activation process? What does the gap look like between where most CPG brands are today in terms of insight-to-action speed, and where the leaders are? What separates the two?How are you building the connective tissue between Pete’s world and Sammi’s world at Haleon — and what does that collaboration unlock?CPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMC

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:Grocery InflationQuarterly EarningsStarbucks LayoffsTarget Board BattlesCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Barbara Connors VP of Strategy & Activation and Brian Downey, Senior Director at Kroger Precision Marketing (KPM), the retail media business of Kroger designed to make brand advertising more effective by closing the loop between media exposure and store sales. Powered by 84.51˚ data science, and Kroger’s popular loyalty card program, KPM connects consumers to brands through engaging moments that inspire purchasing online or in-store.Follow Barbara on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-connors-10312810Follow Brian on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-dowey-079b018Follow KPM on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/krogerprecisionmarketingFollow KPM online at: http://www.krogerprecisionmarketing.comThey answer these questions:Please introduce yourselves and your roles at KPMWhat does genuine alignment between a CPG brand and a retailer actually look like in practice — versus the version of alignment that’s mostly just a slide in a JBP deck?How does that reframe the way you think a brand team should walk into a retailer conversation, and what do most brands still get wrong?How do you help brands build a singular strategic framework that still gives each team the flexibility it needs — without creating chaos?Where do you see the biggest mindset shifts still required — on the brand side and on the retailer side — to make that evolution real?What are the most sophisticated users doing with it that the average user isn’t — and what does ‘near real-time’ insight access actually change about how brands plan?What are the two or three decisions that have to be locked in early for a joint brand-retailer strategy to actually deliver?How can brands use retailer insights to anticipate where preferences are going—not just report where they’ve been?In practical terms, what does true integration across data, insights, activation, and measurement look like — and where do you see brand teams still getting stuck?CPG Guys Website:

The CPG Guys recap their attendance at the 2026 Amazon Upfront event which took place in New York City at the Beacon Theatre on May 11.CPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:Giant Eagle partners with ibottaGeneral Mills LeadershipKraft Heinz increases marketing $$$Doordash resultsCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by John FitzGerald, Sr Director of Growth at Mad Tree Brewing Company. Founded in 2013, MadTree is an award-winning brewery that’s rooted in Cincinnati and planted in purpose. Driven to craft great beer - but more importantly - build a business dedicated to doing good, MadTree protects and celebrates nature while reducing impact on the environment. MadTree is a B-Corp certified company and proud member of 1% for the Planet with a commitment to donate 1% of sales to local, sustainable nonprofits.  Follow John on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnwfitzg/Follow Mad Tree Brewing online at: https://madtree.com/ John answers these questions:What is the one core discipline or strategic framework from that world that you’ve found most indispensable when running a craft brand like MadTree?How do you find the balance between Big CPG rigor and the "fail fast" agility required in the craft brewing industry?When you look at the beer aisle now—which is notoriously crowded and fragmented—how do you apply a "Category Management" mindset to help MadTree win at the shelf against the mega-brewers?How are you leveraging your background in retail partnerships to ensure MadTree isn't just a "local favorite" but a "must-have" brand for major regional retailers?From a leadership perspective, how do you ensure that sustainability isn't just a marketing "badge" but a functional part of your supply chain and operational DNA?You’re managing a complex journey between the taproom (DTC/Experience) and the grocery store (Wholesale). How do you ensure the brand "feeling" a consumer gets in the Oakley taproom translates when they are picking up a 6-pack at Kroger or Meijer?In craft beer, data can often be opaque. How are you building a "Full View" of your consumer, and are you leveraging tools like AI to predict the next big flavor profile or seasonal trend?How is MadTree evolving its product portfolio to capture that shifting demographic and maintain relevance?For a regional brewer, how critical is real-time inventory and sales data to your production planning, and how do you handle those "uncomfortable" supply chain moments?What is t

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Kim Cox, Managing Director NA Omnichannel Intelligence Solutions & Richard Pereira, Regional Product Leader, NA at NielsenIQ, the world’s leading consumer intelligence company, delivering the most complete understanding of consumer buying behavior and revealing new pathways to growth.Follow Kim Cox on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-cox-nielsenFollow Richard Pereira on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardanthonypereiraFollow NIQ online at: http://nielseniq.comThis episode is sponsored by NielsenIQKim and Richard answer these questions:How is retail measurement fundamentally changing in terms of how brands now have to think about competitive visibility?How are AI technologies actually changing the day-to-day experience for a category manager using NIQ tools today?How are your strategic models adapting to ensure brands aren't just seeing "data snapshots" but a fluid omnichannel journey?What makes club measurement so uniquely challenging, and how is NielsenIQ helping brands find the full view of performance there?In practice, how far away are we really from achieving true full-funnel visibility—linking consumer behavior directly to purchase and incrementality?What are the current best practices or product innovations you're leading to build a more "unified" performance pictureWhat should brands expect as these retailers integrate loyalty and sales data into the broader measurement ecosystem?If we look at the next 36 months, what specific capabilities—like unified taxonomies or real-time signals—do you believe will define the next chapter of measurement innovation?Kim - For the brands listening who want to lead rather than lag, what internal skill sets or data investments should they be prioritizing over the next 3–5 years? What can you share about NIQ’s vision for the future? Are there specific partnerships or innovations the industry should be paying attention to coming from NielsenIQ?If you could give our aud

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:Kimberly-Clark Q1 2026 ResultsUnilever Q1 2026 ResultsWalmart Scintilla Media Data FeedReddit Q1 2026 ResultsCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Caitlin Winsor Senior Director of Media, Strategy & Investment at PepsiCo and Chris Grillo Vice President of Sales, CPG at Tubi, the most watched free TV and movie streaming service in the U.S.Follow Cailtin on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlin-coburn-winsor-80789810/Follow PepsiCo on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pepsico/Follow Chris on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-grillo-abab465/Follow Tubi on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tubi-tv/Follow Tubi online at: https://corporate.tubitv.com/partners/advertisewithus/ad-experience/We ask them these questions:How would you describe Tubi’s role in the CTV ecosystem today?What shifts are you seeing in how they think about reach, engagement, and performance in streaming?Where does connected TV fit within your overall media mix strategy, and what signals do you monitor when evaluating a new CTV partner?What were some of the most surprising or important findings for CPG marketers in the Harris Poll study?How are these insights challenging or reshaping traditional assumptions around reach, frequency, and engagement for CPG brands?How do these findings align with what you’re seeing in your own consumers and media performance?What are the key implications for how CPG brands should rethink their media mix and investment strategies moving forward?As CPG brands invest more in streaming, how are they starting to think differently about what success looks like beyond just reach and awareness? Can you share a recent example where a CPG campaign on Tubi delivered a measurable lift that surprised the team?In the CPG space, how do you collaborate with advertisers to craft creatives that perform on CTV? Are there best practices for integrating traditional TV ad assets with shorter video assets for streaming environments to maximize resonance and efficiency?With inflationary pressures and changing consumer

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:KDP Quarterly earningsGen Z pre-games drinking before heading outMicrosoft Voluntary RetirementsTikTok MeasurementCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Shelley Zalis, Founder & CEO of The Female Quotient. Founded in 2007, The Female Quotient (The FQ) is an equality services company that provides thought leadership platforms for women and develops solutions for organizations committed to closing the gender gap in the workplace. Co-Hosting this episode with PVSB is Jacqui Dynowski, co-host of SheCommerce Podcast.Follow Shelley on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelleyzalis/Follow The FQ online at: https://www.thefemalequotient.com/Shelley answers these questions:What's the most compelling ROI data you've seen from CPG companies that have actually closed their internal gender gaps — and what did they do differently?How big is that disconnect, and what's the cost to brand relevance when leadership doesn't reflect the shopper?How have CPG companies — historically some of the biggest advertisers in the world — performed on the Gender Equality Measure (GEM) score, and where is the biggest gap still?How do you counsel companies that are getting squeamish — and what do you say to those who argue that pulling back is a business-neutral decision?For CPG companies deploying AI in marketing, hiring, and consumer insights, what guardrails should they be building in?How are you seeing CPG executives use those spaces differently than other industries — and what conversations are you hearing most from women in the retail media and commerce ecosystem?In CPG, where field sales, trade roles, and supply chain jobs often require significant travel and irregular hours, how should companies redesign work structures to stop losing women mid-career?What does it look like when a male CPG CEO truly leads on this — versus when it's performative — and how can listeners of this podcast who are male executives actually show up differently starting Monday morning?What do you see as the unique opportunity that Cannes creates for driving meaningful equality commitments from CMOs and brand leaders — versus it being another cocktail-party conversation that doesn't translate back to the office?What are the two or three metrics that CPG companies should be tracking internally that most of them currently aren&apos

The CPG Guys are joined in the episode by Patrick Nommensen, Head, Strategic Initiatives, AMS & Europe, E-Commerce at TikTok.This episode was record in Las Vegas at Shoptalk 2026.Follow Patrick on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pnommensen/ Follow TikTok on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tiktok/ Patrick answers these questions:Patrick, you’ve been vocal about how TikTok Shop is “discovery-led commerce,” where shopping starts with inspiration, not intent. In 2026, reports by others have estimated there are over 80 million U.S. shoppers on the platform, how do you preserve that sense of discovery at scale?There’s a perception that TikTok Shop is driven by viral, one-off purchases. But we’re now seeing brands build repeat purchase behavior and long-term customer value. What tools are TikTok Shop providing for brands to move from “viral moment” to sustained brand loyalty?We see the huge stars, but your data shows that micro-influencers often have 2x the engagement for CPG brands. How is TikTok Shop’s affiliate model evolving to help a brand like PepsiCo and flavor swap chips manage multiple micro-creators at scale without a massive manual headcount?Live shopping is often seen as an Asia-first behavior, but we’re seeing strong adoption in the U.S. What’s different about how U.S. consumers engage with LIVE, and where do you see the biggest opportunity?Traditional e-commerce starts with search and intent. TikTok Shop starts with discovery and inspiration. How should CPG brands rethink their entire go-to-market strategy in a world where consumers don’t search—they discover? Retailers like Walmart and Amazon have deep "closed-loop" measurement. How is TikTok Shop closing the gap to show a CPG Brand Manager exactly how a viral video on Tuesday led to an in-store purchase at a physical Kroger on Friday?Amazon and Walmart have launched their own social feeds. What is the "moat" that TikTok Shop has that a legacy retailer can never replicate, no matter how much they invest in "social" features?We’re hearing more brands describe TikTok Shop as a real-time “test kitchen” for product development. Can you share how brands are using the platform to test, iterate, and scale products faster tha

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:Uber Invests More in Delivery HeroDGMN introduces in-store audioConagra's new CEOGoop KitchenCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent. CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast. 

The CPG Guys are joined in the episode by Benoit Vatere, Chief Media Officer for Liquid Death. As one of the fastest growing non-alcoholic beverage brands, Liquid Death uses comedy and entertainment to make health and sustainability 50 times more fun. We take low-calorie beverages and package them into infinitely recyclable cans that compete with the fun marketing of unhealthy brands across beer and junk food.This episode was record in Las Vegas at Shoptalk 2026.Follow Benoit on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benoitvatereFollow Liquid Death on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/liquid-deathBenoit answers these questions:Benoit, you’ve famously said Liquid Death is an entertainment company that happens to sell water. How do you maintain that "unfiltered" creative edge while managing the rigid P&L and distribution requirements of a global CPG?You have a "Country Club" of fans who literally tattoo your logo on their bodies. In an AI world where algorithms try to predict loyalty, how do you protect and scale the "irrational" human connection your brand has built?You’ve built a massive brand by doing the opposite of "best practices." What is one "traditional" CPG marketing rule that you think is officially dead in 2026?Most brands use Retail Media for lower-funnel "search" (buying keywords). Liquid Death is a lifestyle brand that wins at the shelf. How are you using Retail Media Networks (RMNs) to drive discovery rather than just capturing existing demand?Does Liquid Death focus strictly on the "Big 3" (Amazon, Walmart, Instacart), or are you finding unique value in the smaller, niche retail networks?How is Liquid Death structured to ensure the "vibe" isn't lost in the math of an ad-stack?How does a brand as visually loud as Liquid Death plan to win the journey from the living room sofa to the kitchen fridge?How does a brand built on impulse and rebellion stay relevant when a literal robot is making the household grocery list?Are you using GenAI to scale your content production, or do you find that AI currently lacks

The CPG Guys are joined in this episode by Christian Hasshold, host of the In/Organic Podcast and Managing Partner of Resilient Edge M&A Advisors.Follow Christian on LinkedIn at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hassold/Follow the In/Organic podcast on Apple Podcasts at: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/inorganic-podcast/id1710070954Follow the In/Organic podcast on Spotify at: https://open.spotify.com/show/0oa6R4M37vtys5II6clEfF?si=7fdee69be69747f4Christian answers these questions:How do you distinguish between a “nice-to-have” tuck-in acquisition and a transformational, growth-enabling deal in the lower/middle markets?In the lower-to-middle market, what characteristics make an agency or SAAS target attractive to PE buyers versus strategic acquirers? Are there red flags you consistently see?What valuation levers tend to move the needle most for digital agencies and B2B SaaS in private equity? In what scenarios do earnouts or seller financing play a critical role in aligning incentives post-close? What’s a must-have due diligence checklist for an M&A in this space (e.g., tech stack, client concentration, monetization models, recurring revenue quality)? Any surprises you often encounter? After closing, what are your top three priorities to de-risk integration and accelerate value realization in a digital agency or B2B SaaS platform?How do you evaluate and incorporate AI and data-driven product improvements in these companies to unlock scale? Are there specific bets you’d avoid in early-stage growth scenarios?For CPG brands and their agencies, what practical lessons can you share from the M&A and growth playbook that help them become more attractive to PE-backed buyers or to strike better LP-aligned partnerships? CPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/

Each week, the CPG Guys will riff on the hottest topics in the world of omnichannel commerce. This week’s topics:Unilever acquires GRÜNSSazerac Counters Pernod Ricard for Brown-FormanNutella in SpaceUpfront SeasonCPG Guys Website: http://CPGguys.comFMCG Guys Website: http://FMCGguys.comSheCOMMERCE Website: https://shecommercepodcast.com/Rhea Raj’s Website: http://rhearaj.comLara Raj in Katseye: https://www.katseye.world/DISCLAIMER: The content in this podcast episode is provided for general informational purposes only. By listening to our episode, you understand that no information contained in this episode should be construed as advice from CPGGUYS, LLC or the individual author, hosts, or guests, nor is it intended to be a substitute for research on any subject matter. Reference to any specific product or entity does not constitute an endorsement or recommendation by CPGGUYS, LLC. The views expressed by guests are their own and their appearance on the program does not imply an endorsement of them or any entity they represent.CPGGUYS LLC expressly disclaims any and all liability or responsibility for any direct, indirect, incidental, special, consequential or other damages arising out of any individual’s use of, reference to, or inability to use this podcast or the information we presented in this podcast.