In the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, private credit or “shadow banking” grew as an alternative to the regulations and shared risk that institutional banks operate within. What happens if a crisis hits the trillions of dollars that are outside of those guardrails? We may be about to find out.&nbsp; Guest: <a href="https://www.bloombergmedia.com/talent/people/tracy-alloway/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tracy Alloway</a>, co-host of Bloomberg's Odd Lots podcast. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

It's fueling the A.I. bubble, it's coming to your retirement portfolio—and it's flashing a lot of warning signs right now.

Why Everyone Is Freaking Out About Private Credit

Even with Trump in attendance, it didn’t look like the Supreme Court was buying his administration’s attack on the 14th amendment and birthright citizenship. But how the justices decide the case could leave the door open for another, savvier attempt to overturn birthright citizenship in the future. Guest: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jamelle Bouie</a>, opinion columnist at The New York Times.&nbsp; Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The president overturned a 250-year precedent by attending, but the 14th amendment looks like it will remain.

Trump Went to Court—But Left Early

The Iran war’s disruption to global oil supplies demonstrates another upside to switching to renewable energy sources. Instead, Europe is considering rolling back carbon regulations. Guest:&nbsp; <a href="https://x.com/crampell?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Catherine Rampell</a>, economics editor at The Bulwark and anchor at MS NOW. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The Iran war has Europe looking at their climate policies as a place for economic relief.

We're in an Oil Crisis. Will Renewables Save Us?

A flurry of activity in the oil-futures market, minutes before Donald Trump made a big announcement about not striking at Iranian infrastructure, has all the appearance of someone using classified national security information to turn a profit.&nbsp; Guest:&nbsp; Paul Krugman, Nobel-Prize winning economist and author of <a href="https://paulkrugman.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">paulkrugman.substack.com</a>. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Why Paul Krugman believes someone’s making a killing on the Iran war.

Where Insider Trading Becomes Treason

OpenAI is shutting down its video generator Sora less than six months after it launched, and just three months since it signed a deal with Disney. Is this an A.I. company fine tuning its offerings, or the long-awaited popping of the A.I. bubble? Guest: <a href="https://www.404media.co/author/jason-koebler/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jason Koebler</a>, cofounder of 404 Media. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The rise and fall of an A.I. video generator.

Hollywood vs. A.I. Slop

Artificial intelligence is working its way into every aspect of our lives, including law and immigration enforcement, and the industry is spending millions of dollars to ensure it can continue to do so unregulated. But as evidence of bias appears in this nascent tech, this congresswoman wants to ensure we’re not just recreating our historical biases and problems all over again—which is to say, she wants guardrails.&nbsp; Guest: <a href="https://summerlee.house.gov/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Summer Lee</a>, U.S. representative for Pennsylvania’s 12th district. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Congresswoman Summer Lee has a plan

How to Rein in ICE and A.I.

What YouTube and Meta’s loss in the “social media addiction trial” could mean for your feed. Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ryan-mac" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ryan Mac</a>, business and technology reporter for the New York Times. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Juries do what Congress won’t.

Social Media’s Big Tobacco Moment

Trump’s unpredictability injects uncertainty into the economy, foreign policy, and everything else he touches. Even as his war messaging varies wildly moment to moment, the world economy is certain of one thing: it’s bad for the Strait of Hormuz to close. Guest:&nbsp; Justin Wolfers, professor of economics at the University of Michigan.&nbsp; Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Is the American consumer ready for unforeseen expenses like higher gas prices or replacing Iran’s leadership?

The Iran War Hits Your Pocket

Leftist political commentator Hasan Piker feels the Democrats have missed an opportunity to articulate their opposition to Trump’s foreign policy—in Venezuela, Iran, and, from the sound of it, soon enough in Cuba, where Piker just visited.&nbsp; Guest: Hasan Piker, political commentator on <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/hasanabi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Twitch</a> who recently joined the <a href="https://nuestraamericaconvoy.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nuestra América convoy</a> to Havana, Cuba. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The leftist streamer talks about his trip to Havana and how MAGA is a cult.

Meanwhile in Cuba with Hasan Piker

Kristi Noem is out, and Senator Markwayne Mullin is in (in theory) as the new DHS secretary. Mullin tried to strike a softer tone during his confirmation hearing, nodding towards rolling back controversial policies like entering homes without a judicial warrant—but his reputation as a Senate-floor brawler raises questions about whether that’s just rhetoric. Meanwhile, the partial government shutdown, ongoing since February 14, continues to affect the department, including causing disruptions to airport services. What do all these developments signal about the direction that DHS is heading? Guest: Nick Miroff, staff writer for The Atlantic covering immigration. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Immigration enforcement has gone from a strength to an electoral liability for Republicans—but even if it isn’t in the leading headline, it’s still a priority.

How ICE Landed At Your Airport

The argument against counting mail-in ballots that arrive after election day is going to involve Supreme Court-pleasing “originalist” language, but is the case really just another way to say that Trump should have beaten Joe Biden in 2020?&nbsp; Guest: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/jaywillis.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jay Willis,</a> editor-in-chief of Balls &amp; Strikes. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The Supreme Court considers when your vote can be tossed.

You Mailed in Your Ballot. Will It Count?

Why Palantir cofounder and CEO Alex Karp views working with Western militaries not just as a business opportunity, but as a higher calling. Guest: <a href="https://www.jacobsilverman.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Jacob Silverman</a>, journalist and author of “<a href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/1399419986/?tag=slatmaga-20" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Gilded Rage: Elon Musk and the Radicalization of Silicon Valley</a>.” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

How Palantir and Alex Karp lead Silicon Valley’s charge to the front lines.

War Dot Com

Hank Green recently pulled a “reverse OpenAI” - he took his education platform Complexly and made it a nonprofit. In a world where outrage, A.I. slop and “brain rot” are all heavily incentivized by platforms, Hank explains why he’d rather make content that leans into the complexity of our world.&nbsp; Guest: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@hankschannel" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hank Green</a>, YouTuber, half of Vlogbrothers, host of Crash Course and SciShow and founder of VidCon and <a href="https://complexly.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Complexly</a>. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

The YouTuber does a “reverse OpenAI.”

Hank Green Still Believes

The war in Iran is either already over, or almost over, or going to continue until Trump feels it is over in his bones? If you’re Congress, what are you supposed to do with that?&nbsp; Guest: Adam Kinzinger, former Republican Congressman for Illinois’s 11th and 16th districts, Jan 6 Committee member, former lieutenant colonel in the Air National Guard. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Adam Kinzinger offers Democrats advice on reining in a president who pays neither Congress nor allies nor possible outcomes any regard.

Trump Says We Won. This Former Rep Says We’re Trapped.

Israel and America’s war with Iran has spread, leading to the displacement of nearly 20 percent of people in Lebanon. What does that look like on the ground—and how will the conflict end? Guests:&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/basma-alloush/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Basma Alloush</a>, Deputy Director for the Middle East and North Africa at the International Rescue Committee.&nbsp; <a href="https://www.vox.com/authors/joshua-keating" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joshua Keating</a>, senior correspondent at Vox. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

How war in Iran triggered Israel and Hezbollah to resume their own fight.

Thousands Are Fleeing War in Lebanon. She Flew There.

The Republican-led Senate prepares this week to tackle an issue that’s very important to the president, his diehards, and hardly anyone else: passing the SAVE Act in order to force people to prove citizenship before voting. Guest: <a href="https://www.motherjones.com/author/ari-berman/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Ari Berman</a>, national voting rights correspondent for Mother Jones.&nbsp; Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

While Republicans worry about the 2026 election, Trump is trying to win 2020.

The GOP Plan to Kill Your Vote

If no other explanations for the Iran War seem satisfying, have you considered that the point is to bring about the end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ? The people in power have.&nbsp; Guest:&nbsp; <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/timdickinson.bsky.social" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Tim Dickinson</a>, senior writer and editor at <a href="https://substack.com/@timdickinson/posts" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Contrarian</a>. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.&nbsp;<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Is the actual point of the Iran War to bring about the end of the world?

Bombing Iran...for Jesus?

A half dozen state attorneys general have sued the online gaming platform Roblox after multiple investigations found child predators on the site and more than 20 people were arrested for abducting or abusing children they had met via Roblox.&nbsp; Guest: <a href="https://www.naag.org/attorney-general/mike-hilgers/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Hilgers</a>, Nebraska Attorney General. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

Mike Hilgers joins a growing list of AGs suing the platform over child safety.

Why He Sued Roblox

On this week’s Slate Plus exclusive, Timothée Chalamet enters the pas de deux between an Oscar-nominated actor and a public itching for a villain. But as one Gen Z star’s public approval goes down, another’s rises, on the strength of a “<a href="https://www.marieclaire.com/beauty/hair/zendaya-bixie-haircut-paris-fashion-week-2026/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">bixie</a>.”&nbsp; Guest: <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/calllmenadira.net" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nadira Goffe</a>, <a href="https://slate.com/author/nadira-goffe/3" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Slate culture writer</a>. This episode is member-exclusive. Listen to it now by subscribing to Slate Plus. By joining, not only will you unlock exclusive episodes of What Next —you’ll also access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts.&nbsp;You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on&nbsp;<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/what-next-daily-news-and-analysis/id1438906889" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7IT5Yn1zGDH1cYXh38dned" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Spotify</a>. Or, visit&nbsp;<a href="https://slate.com/podcast-plus?utm_medium=link&amp;utm_campaign=plus_pod&amp;utm_content=What_Next&amp;utm_source=episode_summary" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">slate.com/whatnextplus</a>&nbsp;to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

With cheekbones like his, the “Best Actor” hopeful had nowhere to go but down.

SchadenFriday: A Timothée Chalamet Ballet Melee

Drone warfare has evolved immensely since Ukraine. The use of artificial intelligence in combat has evolved just since Venezuela.&nbsp; Guest: Steven Feldstein, political scientist and senior fellow at the <a href="https://carnegieendowment.org/people/steven-feldstein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in the Democracy, Conflict, and Governance Program</a>. Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at<a href="http://slate.com/whatnextplus" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> slate.com/whatnextplus</a> to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell, and Patrick Fort.<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

What does it mean if humans no longer pull the trigger?

Are We Ready for A.I. Warfare?

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