Zuby is joined by mother-daughter duo, Helene Leeds and Penelope Popken — hosts of the Step It UP Podcast. Helene and Penelope sit down to discuss their personal journeys with health, wellness, and fitness, the challenges of obesity in a family dynamic and the health industry writ large. We diveinto the Body Positivity movement, weight-loss and enabling social behaviors, diet and personal responsibility, food regulations and a whole lot more.Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction(09:55) Psychological impacts of obesity & enabling behaviour(18:06) Body positivity differences between men & women(25:13) What age should children use smart devices?(26:55) Penelope’s weight loss process(34:05) How Helen handled Penelope’s weight challenges(39:59) The Body Positivity movement(44:35) Algorithmic amplification vs genuine ideological alliance(49:35) Diet & personal responsibility(59:44) Dangers & addictions of sugar(1:03:22) Food regulations & personal responsibility(1:08:30) Toxic load management(1:12:28) Societal alignment on definition of obesity & health(1:20:16) ‘Wellcare’ & what to do now(1:28:27) Outro_Follow Zuby:https://twitter.com/ZubyMusicFollow the Step It UP Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/@StepItUPPodcast/featured_Subscribe to the 'Real Talk With Zuby' podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify & more: https://fanlink.to/zubypodcast Support Zuby on Locals: https://teamzuby.locals.comSupport Zuby on Patreon: https://patreon.com/zubymusicOnline Store: https://teamzuby.comGet Zuby's fitness book 'Strong Advice': https://zubymusic.gumroad.com/l/zubyfitnessGet Zuby's children's book 'The Candy Calamity': http://candycalamity.comAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy