Get notes on this podcast here:  https://churchleaders.com/podcast/469972-kyle-strobel-jamin-goggin-part-2-gods-vision-power.html Kyle Strobel and Jamin Goggin wrap up their conversation on “The Stetzer ChurchLeaders Podcast,” offering pastors ways to help guard against the misuse of power in ministry and encouraging them to persevere.  Last week, Kyle and Jamin shared how God taught them about his way to power and why all ministry leaders must wrestle with what their view of power actually is. Check out the first part of our conversation with them here:  https://churchleaders.com/podcast/469144-kyle-strobel-jamin-goggin-part-1-churchs-problem-power.html  ► Listen on Apple: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-churchleaders-podcast/id988990685   Visit ChurchLeaders Website: https://churchleaders.com Find ChurchLeaders on Facebook: https://facebook.com/churchleaders Follow ChurchLeaders on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChurchLead Follow ChurchLeaders on Instagram: https://instagram.com/churchlead/ Follow ChurchLeaders on Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/churchleaders/   “The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb: Searching for Jesus’ Path of Power in a Church That Has Abandoned It” by Dr. Kyle Strobel and Dr. Jamin Goggin Biola University Center for Christian Formation Mission Hills Church Talbot School of Theology  Follow Jamin on Facebook, Instagram, and X/Twitter Follow Kyle on Facebook, Instagram, and X/Twitter