***"In the early days, the average user could probably use a Coldcard and know the amount of entropy required. The average Bitcoin user today, no clue. And so the times have changed, our message should have changed. And where I come down to is essentially what you said HODL, you should custody your bitcoin at the level that you are ready for. And that is a process. Day 1, don't shame someone for using an ETF. Applaud them for exposure and remind them that this isn't the end and as your experience, your knowledge, your position size increases, you may want to change that custody model and that's okay." ~ Brandon Quittem*** Today, I'm sitting down with American HODL, Erik Cason, and Brandon Quittem for a conversation that swings between total despair and genuine optimism. We are facing a massive reckoning in the Bitcoin space right now. The recent Coldcard exploit and other vulnerabilities have shattered a lot of illusions. And frankly, we misled a lot of newcomers into thinking self-custody was easy. The fallout has been tragic for many who lost their savings. In this chat, we confront the uncomfortable truth about toxic maximalism, groupthink, and the arrogance that led us to trust blindly. But it's not all doom and gloom. We discuss the practical tools we have at our disposal today to build real resilience. We debate the true meaning of self-custody, why holding ETFs isn't a sin, and how local AI models can actually help you harden your setup. The stakes are simply too high to keep relying on bad heuristics. You need to hear this if you want to protect your stack and your family from what's coming next. Chapters (00:00:00) - Introduction (00:05:34) - Self-custody gut punch (00:14:22) - Bullet-proof multisig (00:29:23) - Why this hack hurts more (00:38:07) - Self-custody for the many (00:49:32) - Diversify your attack surface (01:13:02) - Freedom tech to stay free (01:35:43) - What's on the horizon (01:56:30) - White pill your neighbors Guests Links American HODL on X (Link: https://twitter.com/americanhodl8) Erik Cason on X (Link: https://twitter.com/Erikcason) Brandon Quittem on X (Link: https://twitter.com/Bquittem) Affiliate Links\ Become sovereign, hold your keys, be censorship resistant with the Bitbox hardware wallet. Get 5% off everything in the store with code GUY (Link: https://bitbox.swiss/)\ Get 10% off the best Bitcoin board game in the world, HODLUP! Or any of the other great games from The Free Market Kids! Use code GUY10 at checkout for 10% off your cart! (Link: https://www.freemarketkids.com/collections/games-1) Host Links ⁠⁠Guy on Nostr ⁠(Link: http://tinyurl.com/2xc96ney) ⁠Guy on X ⁠(Link: https://twitter.com/theguyswann) Guy on Instagram (Link: https://www.instagram.com/theguyswann) Guy on TikTok (Link: https://www.tiktok.com/@theguyswann) Guy's Takes on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@GuysTake) Guy Swann on YouTube (Link: https://www.youtube.com/@theguyswann) ⁠Bitcoin Audible on X⁠ (Link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinAudible) The Guy Swann Network Broadcast Room on Keet (Link: https://tinyurl.com/3na6v839)