What if a volleyball chat sparked a software company, award‑winning books, and the blueprint for your own escape from burnout?In this episode, former teacher Marnie Stockman and lifelong programmer Nick Coniglio share how a casual conversation across a volleyball net led to a niche software platform, a successful exit, and a whole new chapter as leadership authors. You’ll hear how they went from misaligned culture and burnout in a huge edtech company to building, selling, and reinventing again with a career-coaching app designed for the next generation in your pocket.If you’re feeling burned out at work or stuck in a W‑2 role and wondering if you could ever start a business, their story will give you real‑world insight on setting an exit horizon, working two jobs, building resilience, and using storytelling to open doors—whether you’re a teacher, IT pro, or corporate leader. Join me, LeAnn Lyon, on Beyond the Business Plan as we explore how you can grow and go beyond your current business plan in a way that feels joyful and sustainable.Get YOUR copy of Joy Minder's S.A.I.L.I.N.G System: https://joyminder.comSponsor Links:Why I Love My Coffee: energize without the jitters – https://WhyILoveMyCoffee.comStart/Restart Your Business Summit (FREE ticket): https://joyminder.com/summitConnect with MARNIE AND NICK:🎁 Free Gift: Dream Recommendation Guide 🌐 Website: https://thebusinessofyou.ai📘 Instagram: http://: https://www.instagram.com/bluethebusinessofyou💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blue-the-business-of-youConnect with LeAnn:📸 Instagram: instagram.com/leannlyon/💼 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/leannlyon/🎥 YouTube: youtube.com/JoyMinderSolutions🌐 Website: https://joyminder.com/podcast📘 Facebook.com/JoyMinderLifestyle/🌐 Replays: https://rss.com/podcasts/beyond-the-business-plan/