The VPN paradigm has grown stale, with simple one-party providers being the best available. But what if we could further minimize trust by shift to a two-party hop system? Obscura is doing just that, and we’re sitting down with their founder Carl Dong to learn all about it.More about CarlCarl’s guest profile – https://optoutpod.com/guests/carl-dong/More about ObscuraWebsite: https://obscura.net/Obscura’s Twitter: https://x.com/obscuravpnTechnical Blog Post on Obscura: https://obscura.net/blog/bootstrapping-trust/iCloud Private Relay: https://www.apple.com/icloud/docs/iCloud_Private_Relay_Overview_Dec2021.pdfMASQUE at the IETF: https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/masque/about/Supporting Opt OutDonations – https://optoutpod.com/donateLeave a review on your favorite podcast platform, if possible!Share it with your friends, family, and other communities!Support the show