In this episode, Chris and Brian discuss a range of topics as they wrap up the year 2025. They touch on personal holiday experiences, including Brian's unique gift-giving tradition of making meat chips and a humorous discussion about him giving out his phone number on Christmas. The conversation delves into Brian's recent scientific papers on food processing and nutrient energy quotient and debunking some diet myths.   SHOW NOTES:   00:47 Christmas Gifts and Traditions  01:46 Personal Life and Fitness Goals 03:31 Brian's Cool Life in Hawaii 05:14 Boat Trip and Dating Adventures 14:44 Legacy and Scientific Contributions 24:43 Understanding Food's Impact on Health 25:58 Introducing the Nutrient Energy Quotient (NEQ) 27:28 The NEQ Scale and Its Implications 35:16 Debunking Diet Myths 39:25 Conspiracy Theories and Media Manipulation   GET BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS http://NosetoTail.org  FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg