John invites Catherine to share her story of joining the Jesus Movement in the early 1970s and becoming trapped in a nomadic, authoritarian group led by Jim Roberts. Together, they explore how radical obedience, perfectionism, and apocalyptic urgency slowly replaced faith in Christ with fear-driven loyalty to leadership. As the conversation unfolds, John and Catherine connect these patterns to broader charismatic and revivalist movements, showing how fear, isolation, and leader-mediated obedience function as tools of control. The discussion offers insight for anyone trying to understand spiritual abuse, deconstruction, and how high-control religious systems reshape belief, identity, and relationships. ______________________Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K ______________________- Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham - Visit the website: https://william-branham.org