Gwyneth sits down with Kelly Rutherford—beloved Upper East Side matriarch and style icon—as she reflects on reinvention, resilience, and the beauty of allowing yourself to not be okay, sharing how gratitude and grace have carried her through life’s hardest transitions. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices