Michael Dorn has more self-discipline and curiosity than anyone else Gates knows; he's an actor, writer, director, pilot, athlete and a vegan. Needless to say, once Michael makes a decision there's no stopping him, so don't even try. Charming, hilarious and a true gentleman, join Gates as she opens this inspiring conversation with Michael using one of their normal riffs upon greeting each other. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices