Marty sits down with Alex Leishman to discuss River's new offering of bitcoin interest on cash. Alex on Twitter: https://x.com/Leishman 0:00 - Intro 1:29 - Mechanics and implications of bitcoin interest 10:27 - Unchained & Coinkite 12:21 - The road to River as a primary bank 19:27 - Effectiveness of Trump and private spending 32:35 - Zaprite & SOTE 34:08 - Learning from River’s users 38:30 - Proof of reserves 40:56 - Shareholder influence and activist investors 51:39 - Preparing for the bull 56:57 - Adoption time frame for innovations 1:03:01 -Will bitcoin help us skip Mandibles? Shoutout to our sponsors: Unchained https://unchained.com/concierge/ Coinkite https://coinkite.com/ Zaprite https://zaprite.com/tftc Salt of the Earth https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/