“It seemed like a risky thing. But the more I did understand it, the more I was like NOT having bitcoin is the real risk. OK, the price goes up and down. But at the end of the day, even there in the worst of the bear markets, I'd be like, has anything really changed other than the price? Nothing has changed fundamentally. So why would my belief in this change?”On this Bitcoin Talk episode of THE Bitcoin Podcast, Walker talks with Mandrik, a Bitcoin OG who started selling Baklava for Bitcoin back in 2011.MANDRIK'S LINKS:Nostr: mandrik@nostrplebs.comhttps://primal.net/p/npub1qex7yjtuucs6ac49kjujdgytrjsphn5a4pdscu2w3qlprym4zsxqfz82qkX: https://x.com/Mandrik *****THE Bitcoin Podcast Partners -- use promo code WALKER for...> bitbox.swiss/walker -- 5% off the Bitcoin-only Bitbox02 hardware wallet.> EFANI: Protect yourself from SIM swap attacks – go to https://www.efani.com/walker and it’ll automatically apply the promo code WALKER getting you $99 OFF.> Cloaked Wireless: 25% OFF eSIM or physical SIM cards and protect yourself from SIM swap attacks.*****If you enjoy THE Bitcoin Podcast you can help support the show by doing the following:Subscribe to THE Bitcoin Podcast (and leave a review) on Fountain | Apple Podcasts | YouTube | Spotify | HIGHLIGHTER | EVERYWHERE ELSEFollow me (Walker) on Twitter Personal (@WalkerAmerica) | Twitter Podcast (@TitcoinPodcast) | Nostr Personal (walker) | Nostr Podcast (Titcoin)