About our guests:Dr Kevin Steinmetzhttps://www.k-state.edu/sasw/faculty/steinmetz.htmlhttps://scholar.google.com/citations?user=mEgRonIAAAAJ&hl=enProf Nicolas Vermeyshttps://www.vermeys.comPapers or resources mentioned in this episode:Steinmetz, K. F., & Henderson, H. (2012). Hip-Hop and Procedural Justice: Hip-Hop Artists’ Perceptions of Criminal Justice. Race and Justice, 2(3), 155–178. https://doi.org/10.1177/2153368712443969Kevin F. Steinmetz (2023) Executing Effective Social Engineering Penetration Tests: A Qualitative Analysis,Journal of Applied Security Research, 18:2, 246-266, DOI: 10.1080/19361610.2021.2002119Steinmetz, K. F., & Holt, T. J. (2023). Falling for Social Engineering: A Qualitative Analysis of Social Engineering Policy Recommendations. Social Science Computer Review, 41(2), 592–607. https://doi.org/10.1177/08944393221117501Goffman, E. (2002). The presentation of self in everyday life. 1959. Garden City, NY, 259.Agnew, R. (2006). Pressured into crime: An overview of general strain theory.Other:This episode was in part edited using a text based audio editing which is an interesting application of machine learning technology to software.