Publisher R. A. “Kris” Millegan speaks with Anton Chaitkin about secret societies, their intelligence agency fathers, and Anton’s latest book, the three-volume WHO WE ARE: America's Fight for Universal Progress, from Franklin to Kennedy: Volume I - 1750s to 1850s, about the people who made America a prosperous, industrial power, and why their opponents feared Presidents Lincoln, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and John F. Kennedy. They also discuss Benjamin Franklin, who instigated the start of the industrial revolution in England before the American Revolution; the insanity of trying to keep much of the world poor and undeveloped, and the futility of trying to block mankind’s right to self-improve and to rule people without their consent. (“God is the only real power.” “The Devil does not run the world. The Devil wants to wreck things.”)Anton’s 1985 book, TREASON IN AMERICA: from Aaron Burr to Averell Harriman, documents the takeover of U.S. policymaking by agents and allies of the British empire. He co-authored GEORGE BUSH: The Unauthorized Biography, which helped defeat Bush’s 1992 re-election attempt. Anton is deep into completing Volume Two of WHO WE ARE: America's Fight for Universal Progress, from Franklin to Kennedy. (Volume I – 1750s to 1850s – is available on Amazon.)