Zuby is joined by filmmaker Hawk Jensen and actor-writer Clifton Duncan for a candid reckoning with the COVID years. They explore how fear, propaganda, and bureaucracy shaped behavior; the media’s power to sculpt “the science”; and the moral psychology behind compliance, cowardice, and courage. This is a thorough reflection on the pandemic.Timestamps:(00:00) Introduction(01:07) Reflecting on the Pandemic(02:09) The Cultural Amnesia of COVID-19(03:54) Lessons Learned and Personal Reflections(09:36) The Role of Fear and Propaganda(12:17) Dissidence and the Power of Free Thought(33:30) Global Impact and Personal Experiences(40:13) The Media's Role in Shaping Perception(41:49) The Science and Its Discontents(43:41) The Nature of Evil and Human Behaviour(50:18) The Role of Bureaucracy and Cowardice(01:01:00) The Collapse of the Old Regime(01:05:32) Political Fatigue and the Need for a Reset(01:10:16) The Power of Art and Authenticity(01:18:16) Outro Subscribe to the 'Real Talk With Zuby' podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify & more - https://fanlink.tv/zubypodcastFollow Zuby:https://realtalkwithzuby.comhttps://x.com/zubymusichttps://instagram.com/zubymusichttps://facebook.com/zubymusicFollow Hawk Jensen:https://hawkjensen.comhttps://x.com/hawkjensenFollow Clifton Duncan:https://x.com/cliftonaduncanIhttps://www.instagram.com/cliftonduncanonline/ (Instagram)https://cliftonduncan.substack.com (cliftonduncan.substack.com)Merch, Music & Books - https://teamzuby.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/real-talk-with-zuby/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy