Adam Carr is the Chief Revenue Officer at Apollo, where he’s scaling revenue by layering sales on top of a $150M+ ARR product-led growth engine. Previously, Adam helped scale Miro from a PLG-led company into a global sales organization, contributing to its growth into a $17.5B business. He’s known for building systems-driven GTM teams that turn product signals into durable revenue.Discussed in this episodeWhy PLG is gravity (signals + acquisition) and sales is the monetization layerThe “one-team” model to prevent PLG vs. sales cannibalizationBuilding talent density (and why slowing hiring can be the fastest path)Hiring for curiosity, coachability, ownership, and team-first executionThe “architect / systems thinker” profile for modern sellersA new post-sales model: CSMs → technical GTM Engineers + intervention-led journeyUsing customer journey milestones to drive expansion and prevent churn proactivelyAI in GTM: streamlining manual work so humans focus on better conversationsEpisode highlights00:00 — PLG is about signaling + acquisition (not monetization)01:30 — “PLG isn’t the monetization way… it’s layering sales.”02:41 — Talent density: hire for the next 12–18 months, not just “today”04:50 — The soft skills that scaled Miro: curiosity, coachability, ownership08:38 — Why Adam hires “architects” (system thinkers) instead of just sellers10:41 — The mindset shift: celebrate value realized, not contracts signed15:41 — Replacing CSMs with “go-to-market engineers” + an intervention model19:14 — Turning PLG signals into PQA/PQL routing (and reducing the “noise”)29:26 — “100M ARR is late” — when to start layering sales into PLGGuest linksLinkedIn (Adam Carr):https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamhcarrFollow Sophie Buonassisi (Host)LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiebuonassisiX (Twitter): https://x.com/sophiebuonaNewsletter: https://thegtmnewsletter.substack.comWhere to Find GTMnowWebsite: https://gtmnow.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/gtmnowX (Twitter): https://x.com/GTMnow_YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GTM_nowPodcast Directory: https://gtmnow.com/tag/podcastThe GTMnow Podcast The GTMnow Podcast is a weekly podcast featuring interviews with the top 1% GTM executives, VCs, and founders. Conversations reveal the unshared details behind how they have grown companies, and the go-to-market strategies responsible for shaping that growth.Visit gtmnow.com for more episodes and other interesting content.