Marty sits down with Carl Dong to discuss the launch of Obscura.Carl on Twitter: https://x.com/carl_dongObscura VPN: https://obscura.net/0:00 - Intro0:36 - Solving private VPN payments5:48 - Explaining VPN hops12:39 - Fold & Bitkey14:34 - Censorship game theory22:13 - VPNs more usable in restricted environs27:10 - New generation of trustless VPNs36:59 - User data is a toxic liability41:16 - New possibilities for internet freedom50:27 - Obscura's long term visionShoutout to our sponsors:Foldhttps://foldapp.com/marty/Bitkeyhttps://bitkey.world/Unchainedhttps://unchained.com/tftc/Join the TFTC Movement:Main YT Channelhttps://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videosClips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQWebsitehttps://tftc.io/Twitterhttps://twitter.com/tftc21Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/Nostrhttps://primal.net/tftcFollow Marty Bent:Twitterhttps://twitter.com/martybentNostrhttps://primal.net/martybentNewsletterhttps://tftc.io/martys-bent/Podcasthttps://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/