Kristin is talking with with Rabbi Leah Jordan and Pam Grossman — writer, curator, and teacher of magical practice and history — to dig deep into Willow's Jewishness, her witchy-ness, and how those two identities are in conversation with each other (or how we *wish* they would have been!) across seven seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.This episode contains spoilers through the end of Season 7 of Buffy!LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNETRabbi Leah Jordan: @leah_solo; Kehillah North LondonPam Grossman: @phantasmaphile; pamgrossman.comKristin Russo: @kristinnoeline; kristinnoeline.comMORE ON OUR GUESTSLeah Jordan is Rabbi of Kehillah North LondonPam Grossman is the creator and host of internationally beloved podcast, The Witch Wave ("The Terry Gross of witches" - Vulture), the author of the critically acclaimed books, Waking the Witch: Reflections on Women, Magic, and Power  (Gallery Books) and What is a Witch (Tin Can Forest Press), and the co-editor of the WITCHCRAFT volume of Taschen's Library of Esoterica series. +++Links from Leah:how Antisemitism and white supremacy are intertwinedScholar Matthew Pateman on Willow's "disappearing Jewishness"great summary of representations of anti-Jewish archetypes in media, with scholar Jonathan BranfmanConcepts in Jewish Tradition: Demons & Demonology, Is There a Jewish Afterlife?, Teshuva, or Repentance, Kabbalah and Mysticism 101, Tikkun Olam: Repairing the World, Maimonides (Rambam) and His Texts, Lilith: Lady Flying in the DarknessGenesis, chapter 4, verse 7: "Surely, if you try to do right, There is uplift. But if you do not do right Sin crouches at the door; Its urge is toward you, Yet you can be overcome it.”SVARA: a traditionally radical yeshiva, a queer yeshivaNonbinary Hebrew ProjectAND kids now are doing Willow Rosenberg-themed b'nei mitzvah!Links from Pam:Ezra RoseKey of SolomonThe Lesser Key of Solomon (Goetia)Incantation bowls