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Clara E. Mattei on the relation between austerity, fascism and authoritarian liberalism. Clara's book is out in German! Find it here: Die Ordnung des Kapitals: Wie Ökonomen die Austerität erfanden und dem Faschismus den Weg bereiteten. Brumaire Verlag. https://shop.jacobin.de/bestellen/clara-mattei-die-ordnung-des-kapitals   Shownotes Clara E. Mattei’s website: https://www.claramattei.com/ Center for Heterodox Economics (CHE) at the University of Tulsa, Oklahoma: https://sites.utulsa.edu/chetu/ CHE’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CHE-tulsa Mattei, C. E. (2022). The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism. University of Chicago Press. https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo181707138.html the german translation: Mattei, C. E. (2025). Die Ordnung des Kapitals: Wie Ökonomen die Austerität erfanden und dem Faschismus den Weg bereiteten. Brumaire Verlag. https://shop.jacobin.de/bestellen/clara-mattei-die-ordnung-des-kapitals on „Derisking“: Amarnath, S., Brusseler, M., Gabor, D., Lala, C., Mason, JW (2023). Varieties of Derisking. Phenomenal World. https://www.phenomenalworld.org/interviews/derisking/ on “DOGE” (Department of Government Efficiency): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency on the new german “Sondervermögen” to invest in rearmament and infrastructure: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-set-to-spend-big-on-army-and-infrastructure/a-71834527 on the 1920 International Financial Conference in Brussels: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_International_Financial_Conference_(1920) on the 1922 Economic and Financial Conference in Genoa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa_Economic_and_Financial_Conference_(1922) on Google’s contract with the IDF: https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24349582/google-israel-defense-forces-idf-contract-gaza Benanav, A. (2022). Socialist Investment, Dynamic Planning, and the Politics of Human Need. Rethinking Marxism, 34(2), 193–204. https://doi.org/10.1080/08935696.2022.2051375 Sirianni, C. J. (1980). Workers’ Control in the Era of World War I: A Comparative Analysis of the European Experience. Theory and Society, 9(1), 29–88. https://www.jstor.org/stable/656823 on the Landless Workers Movement in Brazil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landless_Workers%27_Movement Braun, B. (2021) Central Bank Planning for Public Purpose. In: Fassin, D. and Fourcade, M. (eds.) Pandemic Exposures: Economy and Society in the Time of Coronavirus. HAU Books, pp. 105–121.
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