We talk about monetary maximalism, and whether everything is good for bitcoin with Christian Keroles of HRF. We discuss: Monetary maximalism: descriptive or prescriptive Bitcoin Spam  Antifragility What bitcoiners are getting wrong on personal finance How 2023 played out with “ordinals” Not being used to winning Links: X: @ck_SNARKs Site: HRF.org Site: https://cbdctracker.hrf.org/home Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamp/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:22 - Defining Monetary Maximalism 03:10 - Monetary Maximalism as an Observation 05:00 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive Monetary Maximalism 09:50 - The Debate on Ordinals and Spam 21:05 - The Nuisance Level of Spam 22:48 - What Are Most Bitcoiners Getting Wrong On Personal Finance 29:49 - The Emergence of Ordinals and Inscriptions 32:27 - Coinkite.com 33:28 - Swan.com 34:31 - Mempool.space 35:54 - The Umbrella Term of Ordinals 41:16 - The Fallout and Consequences of Bitcoin Developments 48:53 - The Strengthening of Bitcoin through Challenges 53:20 - The Debate on Filtering in Bitcoin 58:32 - The Emergence of Runes Protocol 01:02:13 - Bitcoin's Winning Streak 01:04:35 - Confusion and False Narratives 01:07:37 - The Base of Bitcoin: 21 Million Coins and HODL 01:08:37 - Closing Thoughts and Bitcoin Adoption