Jason joins to discuss Tando, a Bitcoin payments app in Kenya that connects Lightning to M-PESA. We get into why M-PESA dominates Kenyan payments, how Tando lets Bitcoiners spend sats anywhere M-PESA is accepted, and why pragmatic fiat bridges help bootstrap real Bitcoin circular economies. Then we discuss phone numbers as financial identities, Lightning addresses for Kenyan phone numbers, KYC-free Bitcoin flows, merchant adoption, AI-assisted development, upcoming Kenya Bitcoin events, and the changing regulatory environment.Tando: https://tando.me/Tando on X: https://x.com/tando_meTando on Nostr: https://primal.net/p/nprofile1qqs97ekh6cxykm34l0m5ddrlymhj9rxrys3jemtf90psy3nysum0lkcvrgxmd Bitcoin Kenya: https://bitcoin.co.keEPISODE: 205BLOCK: 952989PRICE: 1640 sats per dollarmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyzmonitor the situation: https://citadelwire.comten31: https://ten31.xyzopensats: https://opensats.org