Flock cameras and automated license plate readers are often sold as tools for finding stolen cars, wanted suspects, missing people, and serious threats. But what happens when that same infrastructure starts being used for everyday traffic enforcement, broader vehicle surveillance, or searchable location databases?In this episode, Tom, Kevin, and Scott discuss a 404 Media report about police allegedly using a Flock camera image to issue a traffic ticket, why that story is a warning sign for ALPR mission creep, and how systems marketed for public safety can become general-purpose surveillance infrastructure. They also talk about citizen pushback, vendor substitution, police discretion, data retention, audit logs, racialized camera deployment, rideshare dashcam surveillance proposals, and new technology that could associate phones and other wireless devices with identifiable vehicles.The core question is not whether stolen cars should be found or serious crimes should be investigated. The question is whether communities understand what they are approving when they install or renew ALPR systems — and whether policy promises like “we don’t use this for traffic enforcement” are actually enforceable.** Links mentioned on the show **404 Media: Police Used Flock to Give a Man a Traffic Ticket https://www.404media.co/police-used-flock-to-give-a-man-a-traffic-ticket/EFF: Traffic Violation! License Plate Reader Mission Creep Is Already Here https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/03/traffic-violation-license-plate-reader-mission-creep-already-hereEFF: Victory! Flock Ends Rollout of Audio Distress Detection of Human Voices https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/victory-flock-ends-rollout-audio-distress-detection-human-voices404 Media: Cops Used Flock to Track a Man Across State Lines to Create Pretext to Search His Car for Weed https://www.404media.co/cops-used-flock-to-track-a-man-across-state-lines-to-create-pretext-to-search-his-car-for-weed/DeFlock https://deflock.org/404 Media: Cities Are Ditching Flock, Immediately Replacing It With Axon License Plate Readers https://www.404media.co/cities-are-ditching-flock-immediately-replacing-it-with-axon-license-plate-readers/404 Media: Flock Pitched a Plan To Turn Uber and Lyft Drivers Into Roaming Surveillance Vehicles https://www.404media.co/flock-pitched-a-plan-to-turn-uber-and-lyft-drivers-into-roaming-surveillance-vehicles/The Conversation: New tech adds phone tracking to license plate readers https://theconversation.com/new-tech-adds-phone-tracking-to-license-plate-readers-associating-devices-with-identifiable-cars-288876** Watch this episode on YouTube **https://youtu.be/mSnQE33WRVE** Become a Shared Security Supporter **Get exclusive access to bonus episodes, listen to new episodes before they