In this lively crossover with Food For Thought Radio, I welcome back UFO researcher and author Ben Emlyn-Jones alongside co-host Anorak for a wide-ranging conversation that veers from playful satire to serious mysteries. We explore the recent spate of missing and deceased scientists linked to defence, aerospace, and advanced materials—discussing General Neil McCasland, Monica Rho, and others—along with echoes of the 1980s GEC-Marconi deaths and unusual “modus operandi” patterns. We touch on UAP terminology shifts, mind-control hypotheses, and whether some disappearances may be staged or tied to disclosure pressures. The chat also dives into historic tech suppression (Tesla, diesel, “death rays,” and efficient engines), lost craftsmanship, hidden tunnels, and strange phenomena from Cannock Chase to the Grand Canyon’s sealed caves. We close by flagging an upcoming episode on demonic entities with Dr Jerry Marzinsky and Helen, contemplating overlaps between “aliens” and darker intelligences, and encouraging kindness and resilience amid a bewildering world.Note: This episode contains humour, listener Q&A, and spirited digressions into transport lore, London Underground quirks, timelines, EMF, health, and why steam engines and real engineering still inspire. As ever, we skip the sponsors and keep the conversation candid, curious, and community-led.