In this episode , host Roger Sales is joined by Brent Winters and other guests for a lively discussion on various topics, including the intricacies of trust law, the role of conspiracy in legal proceedings, and the historical context of economic systems. The conversation delves into the differences between common law and statutory trusts, the implications of being a trustee, and the potential pitfalls of conspiracy charges. The hosts also explore the historical impact of figures like Adam Smith and the economic philosophies that have shaped modern capitalism. Additionally, the episode touches on the complexities of the SESQUI KB Trust and its potential use in paying bills, as well as the broader implications of financial systems on personal and national levels. The episode is rich with historical anecdotes, legal insights, and discussions on the intersection of law, economics, and personal freedom.