Dave and Ben are joined by Caleb Barlow this week, and he shares his thought on what makes a good cyber lawyer, discussing about how this is rapidly becoming a different field and it brings in some very different issues. The three of them also take a look at some AI generated SPAM that caught Caleb’s eye for its novel approach. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Please take a moment to fill out an audience survey! Let us know how we are doing! Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For this week's show, Ben and Dave light up the bat signal, and discuss the multifaceted story regarding the recently announced antitrust case the US Department of Justice has launched against Apple, sharing an overview and implications of the case. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Please take a moment to fill out an audience survey! Let us know how we are doing! Links to the stories:Understanding the DOJ’s Antitrust Complaint Against AppleCaveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our guest this week is Byron Tau, an author who discusses his new book "MEANS OF CONTROL: How the Hidden Alliance of Tech and Government Is Creating a New American Surveillance State." Ben discusses Supreme Court oral arguments on a case relating to social media censorship. Dave's got the story of congress’ potential compromise on section 702.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Please take a moment to fill out an audience survey! Let us know how we are doing! Links to the stories: Supreme Court likely to reject limits on White House social media contacts Senators propose a compromise over hot-button Section 702 renewal Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.And be sure to join us for our live webinar: CISOs are the new Architects (of the Workforce)Join N2K’s Simone Petrella and Intuit’s Kim Jones on Wednesday, March 27th for an online discussion about the pivotal role security leaders play in shaping the security workforce landscape, and how we can start showing up for the future of our industry. Learn more and register on the event page.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dakota Cary from SentinelLabs joins us this week to discuss "China’s Cyber Revenge | Why the PRC Fails to Back Its Claims of Western Espionage." Ben has the latest story on a TikTok bill making its way through Congress. Dave's got the EFF’s brief to the 9th circuit court on software copyright limits.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Please take a moment to fill out an audience survey! Let us know how we are doing! Links to the stories: Furious Congress plows forward with TikTok bill after user revolt EFF to Ninth Circuit: There’s No Software Exception to Traditional Copyright Limits Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Liz Martin from Dragos and Blake Benson from ABS Group are joining to talk through the latest Maritime Executive Order. Ben discusses an EU court decision on encryption. Dave's got the story of the FBI using mobile device push notifications to track down bad guys. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Please take a moment to fill out an audience survey! Let us know how we are doing! Links to the stories: European court favors strong encryption, calling it key to privacy rights The FBI’s new tactic: Catching suspects with push alerts Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Scott Small, Director of Cyber Threat Intelligence at Tidal Cyber, joins to share a look at the cyber threats to the 2024 global elections. Ben and Dave both review Supreme Court oral arguments in two cases relating to state regulation of social media companies.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to the stories:Justices skeptical of Tex., Fla. laws that bar platforms from deleting contentCaveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jasson Casey, CEO of Beyond Identity, joins to discuss international regulation, AI and elections. Ben has the story of Air Canada’s chatbot giving a customer fake information about a refund policy. Dave's got the story of AMC proposing a settlement after allegations they violated a law that goes back to the video rental store days. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to the stories: Air Canada Has to Honor a Refund Policy Its Chatbot Made Up AMC to pay $8M for allegedly violating 1988 law with use of Meta Pixel Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Harvey Jang, Vice President, Deputy General Counsel, and Chief Privacy Officer from Cisco, is sharing privacy concerns around Generative AI, trust challenges facing businesses and the attractive returns from privacy investment. Ben has the story of the FCC banning AI robocalls. Dave's got the story of efforts from the US to lead the way in global AI policy.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to the stories: F.C.C. Bans A.I.-Generated Robocalls The U.S. Plans to ‘Lead the Way’ on Global AI Policy Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Josh Harguess, AI Security Chief at Cranium, joins to talk about how the US compares with other regions of the world looking to regulate AI. Ben has the story of the NSA purchasing domestic internet data. Dave's got the story of an interesting pivot from Texas and Florida on their upcoming content moderation case in the Supreme Court. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to the stories: N.S.A. Buys Americans’ Internet Data Without Warrants, Letter Says The NetChoice Cases Aren't About Discrimination Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, Ben speaks with Melanie Teplinsky, Senior Fellow at American University's Washington College of Law to discuss cybersecurity for innovative small and medium sized enterprises (SMEs). Ben and Dave both share thoughts and discuss what happened at the much anticipated Supreme Court oral arguments for Gonzalez v. Google, a major Section 230 case. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Have the Justices Gotten Cold Feet About ‘Breaking the Internet’?Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Padraic O'Reilly from CyberSaint sits down to discuss privacy and mitigating election security cyber risk. Ben discusses an important case in administrative law that may have profound effects on the tech industry. Dave's got the story of an alleged wrongful arrest based on facial recognition technology. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to the stories: Not even the Supreme Court can make Congress do its job Facial recognition used after Sunglass Hut robbery led to man’s wrongful jailing, says suit Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Earlier this month, the White House released the National Cybersecurity Strategy, the first issued since 2018. The strategy refocuses roles, responsibilities, and resource allocations in the digital ecosystem, with a five pillar approach. Those pillars are: defending critical infrastructure, disrupting threat actors, shaping market forces to drive security and resilience, investing in a resilient future, and forging international partnerships.We wanted to delve into the strategy and its intended effects further, so Dave Bittner spoke with representatives from industry and inside government. Dave first speaks with Adam Isles, Principal and Head of Cybersecurity Practice at The Chertoff Group, sharing industry's take on the strategy. Following that conversation, Dave had a discussion with Steve Kelly, Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Cybersecurity and Emerging Technology at the National Security Council, for a look at the strategy from inside the White House.Links to resources: Point of View: 2023 National Cybersecurity Strategy The Chertoff Group's blog National Cybersecurity Strategy 2023 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bryce Kennedy, President of the Association of Commercial Space Professionals (ACSP), is sharing what is on horizon in space law. Bryce is also a space lawyer and a regular contributor to our T-Minus daily space podcast right here on the N2K podcast network.You can hear more from the T-Minus space daily show here.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Author Chris Smith is sharing his book, Privacy Pandemic: How Cybercriminals Determine Targets, Attack Identities, and Violate Privacy―and How Consumers, Companies, and Policymakers Can Fight Back. Dave's got word that the Federal Trade Commission is updating its Health Breach Notification Rule. Ben has the story of an upcoming court case relating to online video privacy. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories: EFF Asks Court to Uphold Federal Law That Protects Online Video Viewers’ Privacy and Free Expression The Most Critical Elements of the FTC’s Health Breach Rulemaking Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Caleb Barlow from Cyberbit is talking with Dave Bittner and Ben Yelin about a swatting incident that got out of control after a Danvers police officer accidentally shot a gun on the floor of a private school. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories: Video shows Danvers police officer accidentally firing gun in St. John's Prep shooting scare Police shot gun during hoax school shooting at St. John’s: Here’s what happened Students, staff evacuate St. John's Prep after 'swatting' incident St. John’s Prep says police, counselors and comfort dogs will be on campus when classes resume on Wednesday Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Luke Tenery from StoneTurn joins Dave to discuss the OPM breach, including a look back at this hack, what the fallout has been, and what has changed in the U.S.- Chinese cyber relationship. Ben shares an appeals court case on free speech rights and social media. Dave has a story of online health tracking services oversharing with the popular social media app, Facebook. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney.  Victory! Federal Court Upholds First Amendment Protections for Student’s Off-Campus Social Media Post Digital Medical Companies Funnel Patient Data To Facebook For Advertising Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul Kurtz from Splunk is sharing the CISO/board perspective on the SEC cyber regulations that just went into effect. Ben has the story of Google moving to end geofence warrants. Dave has got the story of the ongoing debate on whether or not to pay the ransom.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories: Google moves to end geofence warrants, a surveillance problem it largely created Don’t ban payments to ransomware gangs, cyber experts say Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Larry Whiteside Jr. from RegScale and Cyversity is sharing ways increasing diversity can benefit boards, companies, and industries at large, as well as challenges with attracting and retaining cybersecurity talent. Ben has an update on the first geofence warrant case to make it to the Federal Court of Appeals. Dave's got a rundown of upcoming Supreme Court cases that may affect social media platforms.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories: The Volokh Conspiracy Supreme Court to consider giving First Amendment protections to social media posts Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Michael Barnhart from Mandiant sits down to talk about the evolution of North Korea's cyber program. Ben's story discusses a preliminary injunction against a Montana law banning TikTok. Dave's got the story of a college student frustrated with his lack of privacy on campus.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories: Federal judge blocks Montana's TikTok ban before it takes effect He Wanted Privacy. His College Gave Him None Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Nick Sanna of the FAIR Institute and Safe Security joins to discuss the challenges the White House faces in attempting to harmonize critical infrastructure regulations. Ben has the story of a warrantless phone records surveillance program that is tracking over a trillion U.S. phone records annually. Dave explains how reporters from Rolling Stone tracked visitors to Donald Trump’s Mar-a-lago.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories: We Spied on Trump’s ‘Southern White House’ From Our Couches Secretive White House Surveillance Program Gives Cops Access to Trillions of US Phone Records Caveat BriefingA companion weekly newsletter is available CyberWire Pro members on the CyberWire's website. If you are a member, make sure you subscribe to receive our weekly wrap-up of privacy, policy, and research news, focused on incidents, techniques, tips, compliance, rights, trends, threats, policy, and influence ops delivered to you inbox each Thursday.Got a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com. Hope to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices