TED and Stable Genius ProductionsBusiness, Careers
TED and Stable Genius ProductionsBusiness, Careers
TED and Stable Genius ProductionsBusiness, Careers
TED and Stable Genius ProductionsBusiness, Careers

About

ZigZag, the business show about being human, returns as a member of the TED Audio Collective. 
Join this zig-zagging quest with Manoush Zomorodi (Host of NPR’s TED Radio Hour; Fast Company’s 100 Most Creative People in Business) to discover new ways we can align our professional ambitions with our personal values.

Find @ZigZagPod on Twitter and Instagram. Get recommended readings to go with each episode and more with the newsletter. Share your zig or zag with Manoush by emailing a voice memo to ZigZag@StableG.com


  • Introducing ZigZag!
    A new podcast about women and tech. And the blockchain. And anxiety.
  • Chapter 1: Meet the Stable Geniuses
    Jen and Manoush leave their public radio jobs to chart a new course.
  • Chapter 2: Blockchain. Blockwhat?!
    Jen and Manoush learn that blockchain technology could do a lot more than just making Bitcoin speculators stupid rich.
  • Chapter 3: Higher Than We Knew
    The stakes for the upcoming cryptocurrency launch become clear to Manoush and Jen.
  • Chapter 4: Hedging Your Bets
    Roman Mars and a well-known venture capitalist school Manoush and Jen.
  • Chapter 5: Men, Women and Vulnerability
    Ahead of the Civil token launch, Manoush and Jen go for one last gut check with the cofounders of Gimlet Media.
  • Chapter 6: What's a CVL Token?
    Nerdball incoming! Manoush and Jen go deeper on blockchain technology with the basics behind cryptoeconomics and token curated registries.
  • Chapter 7: A New Frontier for Journalism?
    Civil officially announces its token sale and the rules governing the platform.
  • Chapter 8: Putting Crypto Pioneers to the Test
    Mapping the future of journalism is hard. And some people like it that way.
  • Chapter 9: Letter from Startup-Blockchain-Women-Entrepreneurland
    Civil delays its token sale and listeners share changes they’ve made in their lives since #MeToo.
  • Chapter 10: Listening to Anthony Bourdain
    Civil journalist Maria Bustillos shares a recording of her epic interview with America’s unofficial ambassador.
  • Chapter 11: Ten Things You Should Know About Crypto
    Translating the head-scratching lingo, odd habits, and important basics of digital currencies with Coindesk's Joon Ian Wong.
  • Chapter 12: Enter the Mesh
    The future of corporations, crypto, and this podcast with billionaire blockchain founder, Joe Lubin.
  • Update: It’s Hard Going Back to School, Work, and Saving Journalism
    We took a week off. Jen went to a secret surfing. Manoush went to Iceland. Now it's back to work.
  • The Civil Token Sale is Live
    Manoush and Jen go behind-the-scenes of the Civil token sale. And they get #meta about being journalists, who cover weird journalism experiments, and then get press about it.
  • Announcing Season Two of ZigZag
    ZigZag is BACK on October 11 for Season Two. The theme is Trust + Information. Listen to the trailer to hear what Jen and Manoush have planned...and click here to learn how to get the podcast delivered to you every Thursday. *Never heard ZigZag? *Give Episodes One and Two of Season One a try. You'll get to know Jen and Manoush and finally understand what blockchain technology is. Still not convinced? Read what the press and listeners have to say about the show.
  • S2 EP1: How Misinformation Spreads
    Season Two of ZigZag tackles Trust and Information on multiple levels: from co-founders, to new technology, and beyond.
  • S2 EP2: Why Civil's Token Sale Failed
    Civil founder and CEO Matthew Iles acknowledges the mistakes there. Manoush and Jen continue to examine the sources of misinformation that are slowly flowing into our society and affecting our democracy, via Twitter.
  • S2 EP3: Trusting Yourself in Startup-Entrepreneurland
    Because failure can focus you.
  • S2 EP4: What IS Fact-Checking?
    Manoush goes whole hog on role of the fact-checker in journalism today and what fact checking will look like in the future.
  • S2 EP5: Meat World Matters
    The urban dictionary defines 'meat world' as the real world, outside the internet. Jen and Manoush explore one specific aspect of meat world and why it matters, especially nowadays.
  • S2 EP6: A Secret #MeToo Weapon
    What happened when the MeToo movement met Blockchain in China
  • S2 EP7: Forget Inbox Zero
    In this season of giving thanks, we are grateful for the technology that keeps on giving: email. And we thank all the ZigZag listeners who've sent voice memos, encouragement, love and constructive criticism via email.
  • S2 EP8: The Women Who Make CRIMINAL
    The Stable Geniuses (Manoush and Jen) talk with the women behind the hit Radiotopia podcast Criminal. Hear a frank conversation about podcasting, business ownership and creative partnerships.
  • S2 EP9: Julia Angwin's Investigations Haunt Facebook
    Manoush talks with Julia Angwin, the cofounder of The MarkUp, the investigative non-profit news organization that's just received $20 million in funding from Craig Newmark
  • S2 BONUS: The Story of ZigZag Through Voice Memos
    Jen made a weird mini episode to thank all of the people who support Radiotopia and ZigZag. So thanks!
  • S2 EP10: An App for Information Overload?
    Is it possible to start over and make a healthy news and information app that would be BENEFICIAL for us?
  • S2 EP11: If Capitalism and Socialism Had a Baby
    Manoush goes BIG THINK with economist Rufus Pollock on how he'd radically change the way global economies work. Hint: by breaking up the Big Tech monopolies and making information open.
  • S2 EP12: Lessons Learned from a Risky Crypto Experiment
    Manoush and Jen wrap up season 2 of Zigzag by admitting their highs and lows, their zigs and their zags.
  • S3 EP1: The Lifecycle of an Idea
    Season 3 of ZigZag is about riding the Hype Cycle.
  • S3 EP2: What Triggers Innovation
    Manoush continues her exploration of the different phases of the hype cycle, with the first phase: the innovation trigger. And Thalia takes a trip to North Country to investigate how Messina is faring with a new blockchain operation in town.
  • S3 EP3: The Peak of Expectations
    Cultivating an innovative idea requires having a lush (some might say delusional) vision.
  • S3 EP4: The Trough of Disillusionment
    When the world looks bleak and all the good ideas seem taken.
  • S3 EP5: The Slope of Enlightenment
    Wait! Your crazy idea is working after all.
  • S3 EP06: The Plateau of Productivity
    Sexy it's not, but the last phase of the Hype Cycle means you're LEGIT.
  • S4 EP01: Manoush and Jen Became Entrepreneurs One Year Ago
    Here's what they wish they'd known. And where they're going next.
  • S4 EP02: An Alternative To Silicon Valley's "Unicorn" Bullsh*t
    Zebra's Unite is a new brand of entrepreneurialism--one symbolized by a hooved creature who actually roams the earth.
  • Bonus: Our Old Podcast is Back! Here's a Taste.
    Note to Self, the show Jen and Manoush used to make at New York Public Radio is back. Here's the first episode. Enjoy.
  • S4 EP03: Adam Grant Says Your Next Boss Might Want You to "Self Manage"
    The organizational psychologist guides us through (and rates) the latest trends in how we work, from "Holacracy" to "Radical Candor."
  • S4 EP04: When Your Gut Tells You It's Time to END Your Company
    Grace Bonney is shutting down her influential site Design*Sponge. And it's making some people uncomfortable.
  • S4 EP05: The Venture Capitalist Asking Existential Questions
    Venture Capitalist Caterina Fake is putting money into companies that don't mess with our heads.
  • S4 EP06: Why Craiglist's Founder Just Wrote Consumer Reports a $6m Check
    The Craigslist Founder wants a new way to rate products and set the nerds free.
  • S4 EP07: 46, Female, and Ambitious. Is that so wrong?
    When Mallory Kasdan's work as a successful voice-over artist dried up, she discovered she wanted to sound like HERSELF.
  • S4 EP08: The Weird Kids At The Big Tech Party
    Mozilla's Mark Surman is leading the fight to win customers without tracking the bejeezus out of them.
  • S4 EP09: Is Your Career Veering Off Course...Or Just Doing a Zigzag?
    Key moments that changed the professional lives of Pinterest's ex-President, an Obama advisor, and a data scientist turned CEO.
  • S4 EP10: This is What a Male Identity Crisis Sounds Like
    Wall Street guy Khe Hy gave up financial security to find himself. His story is less clichéd than you think.
  • S4 EP11: Pacing Yourself After Burnout
    After a near-death experience, podcaster Helen Zaltzman felt sublime. At first.
  • S4 EP12: We're Rethinking What Success Looks Like
    Economic growth at all costs is unsustainable--here's how our listeners are changing up their financial and personal goals.
  • S4 EP 13: The CEO Who Paid Everyone the $ame $alary. Including Himself.
    Dan Price tried all kinds of strategies to keep his company going. This one actually worked.
  • Bonus: Manoush Guest Hosts the TED Radio Hour!
    We have a bonus for you this week!
  • S4 EP14: When Women Don't Support Other Women at Work
    Katharine Zaleski didn't know she was a sexist boss...until she became a mother herself.
  • S4 EP15: The Secret Ex-Rock Star at The Ford Foundation
    Before Jenny Toomey became one of the most influential people working behind the scenes on all the big tech issues, she was a rock star. Quite literally.
  • EP16: Ari Weinzweig is Prototyping a New Kind of Delicious Capitalism
    How the co-founder of Zingerman's Deli built a gourmet collective that's idolized by foodies and entrepreneurs alike.
  • Bonus: “The Surveillance Economy” from IRL
    This week, we’re featuring an episode from the IRL podcast called “The Surveillance Economy.”
  • S4 EP17: Helping Your Relationship Survive Your Job
    ResearcherJennifer Petriglieri says dual-career couples can thrive in love and work. But they must pass through three difficult phases.
  • S4 EP18: Don't Tie a Pink Ribbon for Kate Pickert
    A journalism professor's investigation into her own diagnosis will change what you think you know about living and working with breast cancer.
  • S4 EP19: The Guy Who Quit Planes for Good
    Scientist Peter Kalmus quit planes for the benefit of the planet. Here's how that choice affected his career and family vacations.
  • S4 EP20: How Valerie Jarrett Turned Her Misery Into Motivation
    President Obama's longest serving advisor blossomed when she stopped listening to authority figures...and started loving the 'swerves' in life.
  • S4 EP21: Being Ethnically Ambiguous At Work
    Code Switch's Shereen Marisol Meraji and Manoush have a frank conversation about where they fit into today’s movement for diversity and inclusion.
  • S4 EP22: Mailchimp’s CEO On Building a Multi-Billion Dollar Business Without Being an A$$hole
    Ben Chestnut explains why his company never took VC money and how small businesses can survive Amazon.
  • End of A Partnership
    Financial and parenting pressures in the age of COVID-19 force Manoush and Jen to make a tough decision.
  • The zigs and zags just keep coming. Welcome to Season 5.
    Listen to what Manoush has cooked up for her first solo season of the business podcast about being human.
  • S5 EP1: Eric Ries' Radical Stock Market Experiment
    He wrote Silicon Valley’s bible. Now he wants to launch a stock market for social justice...and regulators approve.
  • S5 EP2: Why Arlan Hamilton Still Believes Capitalism is the Great Equalizer
    And how the Black, gay, and female venture capitalist deals with white male founders who call her racist.
  • S5 EP3: Can Big Tech Be Healed?
    Chaplain Greg Epstein is guiding technologists to find their moral compass.
  • S5 EP4: Carrie Goldberg is the Troll Slayer
    How a stalker inspired this attorney to start a pioneering law firm that's changing how people view female sexuality.
  • S5 EP5: Changing Our Relationship to STUFF
    Trash junkie Adam Minter explains why we keep buying crap, where it goes when we get rid of it, and how the economy would survive if we stopped.
  • S5 EP6: The Case of the Lost American Dream
    Why NPR's Aarti Shahani thrived in the U.S...while her father barely survived.
  • S6 EP1 STEP 1: THE PULSE
    Join this season's special experiment: The ZigZag Project is six steps (and episodes) to map out a path that aligns your personal values with your professional ambitions.
  • S6 EP2 STEP 2: THE VISION
    This season's special project continues with an exercise in imagining your future work life.
  • S6 EP3 STEP 3: THE WEIRD IDEAS
    We jumpstart your creative thinking about what you'll do next with step three of The ZigZag Project.
  • S6 EP4 STEP 4: THE MATCH
    Time to start asking the hard questions.
  • S6 EP5 STEP 5: THE PATHS
    How to deal with the stress that comes with big change.
  • S6 EP6 STEP 6: THE TIMELINE
    Stacey Abrams joins us for the final step of The ZigZag Project.