Security researcher Bruce Schneier talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his recent book, Click Here to Kill Everybody. He also explains why the internet of things is a “dumpster fire," what regulations need to be implemented to keep people safe, and why the European Union and a few US states may determine the future of tech regulation.Featuring:Bruce Schneier (<a href="https://twitter.com/schneierblog">@schneierblog</a>), author, <a href="https://www.schneier.com/books/click_here/">Click Here to Kill Everybody: Security and Survival in a Hyper-connected World</a>Host:Kara Swisher (<a href="https://twitter.com/karaswisher">@karaswisher</a>), Recode co-founder and editor-at-largeMore to explore:<a href="http://bit.ly/ResetPod">Subscribe for free to Reset</a>, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything.About Recode by Vox:Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us.Follow Us:Newsletter: <a href="https://events.recode.net/newsletters/subscribe/">Recode Daily</a>Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/Recode">@Recode</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Voxdotcom">@voxdotcom</a> Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a>

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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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