Where are some Bitcoiners going wrong in their thinking and arguments about energy? Alex Epstein, author of The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, and energy policy commentator joins me to talk about energy use, and why we’re not thinking about it clearly. We chat: The benefits of energy and fossil fuels More energy use is good! Renewables are really just unreliables Reframing the conversation Links: Twitter: @AlexEpstein Site: Energytalkingpoints.com Site: Industrialprogress.com Sponsors: Swan Bitcoin Hodl Hodl Lend Compass Mining Unchained Capital (code LIVERA) CypherSafe (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Stephan Livera links: Show notes and website Follow me on Twitter @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Patreon @stephanlivera