The Starling Tribune Reporters SP and Chris review the 2019 Arrowverse Crossover Crisis On Infinite Earths Part One (technically Supergirl Season 5 Episode 9) with the help of Michelle’s notes once again. Michelle was out sick for the week. The reporters discuss the final Arrow included crossover episode part one including why you should enjoy these episodes while you have access to them, that this is simply the MOST AMBITIOUS crossover in the history of television spanning SIX currently airing television shows, why its time to geek out over all the cameos, the reporter’s takes on the Earth-16 adventure (more to come in a later episode), the reporter’s roses and thorns with this episode of the crossover, why Arrow fans might feel cheated at the big Arrow moment and Marc Guggenheim’s reasons for it,if the crossover can be produced like a 5 episode miniseries or a 5 episode premium streaming series, why James Bamford would have been a great addition to the Supergirl episode production staff, and what was that deal between the Monitor and Oliver Queen about anyway?   Episode: “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One” [Supergirl: Season 5 Episode 9] Air Date: Sunday, December 8, 2019   Director: Jesse Warn https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1168394/?ref_=tt_ov_dr  13x Supergirl / 6x Arrow / 4x The Flash / 8x Spartacus   Writers: Robert L. Rovner (story by) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0746362/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr8  17x Supergirl (7x story / 5x teleplay / 5x written)   Marc Guggenheim (story by) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr9  3x story by-Supergirl: Crisis on Earth-X Pt 1, Elseworlds Pt 3, Crisis Part 1   Derek Simon (teleplay by) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2037807/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6  Supergirl: 23x executive story editor, 22x story editor, 12x written, 7x staff writer, 5x teleplay, 2x story by   Jay Faerber (teleplay by) https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4732141/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr7  2x Supergirl (also producer) / 9x Zoo / 2x Star-Crossed Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSLAd-G42w8&feature=youtu.be   Arrow   Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating 01 Starling City 15-Oct-19 0.84 02 Welcome To Hong Kong 22-Oct-19 0.77 03 Leap Of Faith 29-Oct-19 0.76 04 Present Tense 5-Nov-19 0.62 05 Prochnost 19-Nov-19 0.74 06 Reset 26-Nov-19 0.79 07 Purgatory 3-Dec-19 0.83   Legends Of Tomorrow   Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating   Supergirl   Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating 01 Event Horizon 6-Oct-19 1.26 02 Stranger Beside Me 13-Oct-19 0.97 03 Blurred Lines 20-Oct-19 0.92 04 In Plain Sight 27-Oct-19 0.95 05 Dangerous Liaisons 3-Nov-19 0.78 06 Confidence Women 10-Nov-19 0.8 07 Tremors 17-Nov-19 0.79 08 The Wrath Of Rama Khan 1-Dec-19 0.87 09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One 8-Dec-19 1.67   The Flash   Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating 01 Into the Void 8-Oct-19 1.62 02 A Flash of the Lighting 16-Oct-19 1.27 03 Dead Man Running 22-Oct-19 1.38 04 There Will Be Blood 29-Oct-19 1.48 05 Kiss Kiss Breach Breach 5-Nov-19 1.19 06 License To Elongate 19-Nov-19 1.29 07 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 1 26-Nov-19 1.17 08 The Last Temptation of Barry Allen, Pt. 2 3-Dec-19 1.32 09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Three 10-Dec-19 1.71   Black Lightning   Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating 01 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Birth of the Blackbird 7-Oct-19 1.16 02 The Book Of Occupation: Chapter Two: Maryam’s Tasbih 14-Oct-19 0.63 03 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Three: Agent Odell's Pipe-Dream 21-Oct-19 0.61 04 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Four: Lynn's Ouroboros 28-Oct-19 0.52 05 The Book of Occupation: Chapter Five: Requiem for Tavon 11-Nov-19 0.71 06 The Book of Resistance: Chapter One: Knocking on Heaven's Doo 18-Nov-19 0.62 07 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Two: Henderson's Opus 25-Nov-19 0.65 08 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Three: The Battle of Franklin Terrace 2-Dec-19 0.60 09 The Book of Resistance: Chapter Four: Earth Crisis 9-Dec-19 0.90   Batwoman   Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating 01 Pilot 6-Oct-19 1.86 02 The Rabbit Hole 13-Oct-19 1.45 03 Down Down Down 20-Oct-19 1.22 04 Who Are You? 27-Oct-19 1.29 05 Mine Is A Long And A Sad Tale 3-Nov-19 1.16 06 I'll Be Judge, I'll Be Jury 10-Nov-19 1.09 07 Tell Me The Truth 17-Nov-19 1.01 08 A Mad Tea-Party 1-Dec-19 1.01 09 Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two 9-Dec-19 1.71   Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters What was the overall theme? What was the link to the episode’s name? Part 1 of crossover Crisis across the multiverse  Fight scenes and stunts Supergirl saves Wil Wheaton from Spike Batwoman takes down members of Alice’s gang Tower Atom, Batwoman, Mia, Oliver vs. Shadow Demons Supers helping w/earthquake stuff Batwoman allows Ray to upgrade batarang Supers come back w/Flash Rooftop fight Monitor - must retreat Oliver - I have to fight; shocks Monitor; runs out of arrows; puts up his fists; “dies” Time Travel / Crisis / Cameos Monitor VO: Big bang - life; multiverse multiplying like mitosis; Age of Heroes finally born; heroes in time to save multiverse Earth-89: Gotham - Keaton’s Batman world - Alexander Knox (Robert Whul) reads paper Earth 9 - San Francisco - DC Universe Titans destroyed Earth X - The Ray Earth 66 - Burt Ward walking dog - “Holy crimson skies of death!” Earth 38 - Supergirl’s world - Wil Wheaton - doomsday sign (Michelle: I did not see this cameo coming) Earth 16 - 2046 Legends landed in an alternate Earth’s future Lois, Sara, and Brainiac go Bunker - Oliver has baby; Oliver and Sara fight; Sara and Old Man Oliver talk  Oliver Queen / Green Arrow - Earth 1 Gives Mia her own Green Arrow suit and bow; there should always be at least one Green Arrow Upset when Barry says he’s going to die; demands to see the Monitor; Oliver - Kara and Barry are supposed to live; Monitor spared lives to save them last year; this is a new crossover (LOL), a new problem Saved 1 billion Barry and Kara - save us Mia - find your mother and William Team Arrow Supergirl - Earth 38 Warns Argo, but too late Convinces Batwoman others are ok Has hope; Krypton is a spirit; fight for what’s right 3 billion to Earth 1 Team Supergirl J’onn - tells team about Monitor and Crisis; has Legion’s ship Coordinate evacuation to Earth 1 Lana - build portal; awkward convo w/Alex Danvers; I would help even w/o apology; I’m not evil   Superman - 38 (Hoechlin) Son - Jonathan: Lois, Alura, and Clark puts him in pod to Earth (Brando’s dialogue) Monitor saves Clark and Lois at the last minute Superman - (Routh) Batwoman - Earth 1 Michelle - BW asks about Alice, which is the current storyline; the timeline is off; last year she met Supergirl & co, but her show started at the beginning of her superhero career   Barry Allen / Flash - Earth 1 Team Flash Sara Lance / White Canary Never thought I would see parent Oliver Ray / Atom  Last year at Woodstock - Janis Joplin noticed him and gave her a new song Team Legends Monitor This is not the ending I saw for Oliver Harbinger Collects hero; brings them to Earth 38 Explains what’s going on to team; Earth 38 - tipping point Raises the Quantum Tower - Monitor placed them on key Earths  Have to protect tower from Anti-Monitor Lex Luthor Pariah Don’t see Nash become Pariah (Michelle: Where’s Psycho Pirate?) Witness to Anti-Monitor’s actions Everything is doomed Thorns: SP Disconnected episode by episode production Focused on the show episode’s cast (In this case Supergirl) Plot progressing too fast (Better on second viewing) Vast destruction and death not easily comprehensible Too much, too quick Jonathan’s single escape wasn’t necessary - why Earth-16? William not in Crossover and doesn;’t get to experience Oliver dying Batwoman’s timeline Where did Mia’s Arrow suit come from? Supergirl subplots - especially Lena Luther was not necessary How many billions died because Lena argues about helping? Ray was vulnerable while giving Batwoman upgrade Arrow’s death scene - full quiver to no quiver instantly Where are his knives/blades? Scene cut short Arrow dies on Supergirl - not on Arrow.Pretty big deal. Pariah just appears like Harbinger. No origin story Chris Lena sucks pacing seemed off. Ollie death to ‘subvert our expectations’ bs Ollie’s magic quiver shadow demons looks like dementors Michelle - don’t see Lyla become Harbinger or her relationship w/Monitor; don’t see Nash become Pariah; wanted tower to become part of plot like in comics; wish crossover treated like 5 hour movie, not upset Oliver died in Part 1, but just because it’s called Supergirl doesn’t mean all the stupid subplots from the show have to be in the crossover (I think we’ve had this complant every crossover) Roses SP -  “Age Of Heroes” Multiverse Intro Worldbuilding - All the Earths, all of DC’s screen coming together 4th Wall broken early and often - didn’t take itself too seriously Homages to 78 Superman with Jonathan was cool Chyron’s really helped map out where people were Supergirl and Superman comforting each other in the face of tremendous loss - DEO Balcony Avenger’s Age Of Ultron battle around the machine / Harry Potter  Tons of female leads. Lyla/Harbinger, Supergirl, Sara, Alex Danvers, Lena Luther, Batwoman Chris Legends team trivia with time goof. hell yeah Ollie and Sarah friendship is solid and referenced a lot Happily ever after for Clark/Lois Ray is a delight (batwoman upgrades and nerding out) Getting to see Amell play another Ollie is fun Symmetry for Kal-El and Jonathon  Other Earths (Batman 89 awesome) Michelle - fixed Legends 2046 plot hole / great Old Man Ollie-Sara moment; Batwoman: interactions w/Ray, trusting Kara, and kicking butt; Amell’s acting is on point; Mia gets suit from Dad For reference: Crisis on Infinite Earths: Easter Eggs and References in Part One (8 Dec 2019) https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/08/crisis-on-infinite-earths-spoilers-part-1-easter-eggs-cameos/#1      NEXT EPISODE   Link to Promo: https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/12/09/crisis-on-infinite-earths-part-2-batwoman-promo-cw/ (Date: 8 Dec 2019)    Episode: “Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 2” [Batwoman: Season 1 Episode 9] Air Date: Monday, December 9, 2019 Summary: The group uses Ray's invention to track new recruits to help save the universe. The Monitor sends Iris, Clark and Lois in search of a mysterious Kryptonian, while Kate and Kara head out to find Bruce Wayne. In addition, Mia challenges Sara, Rory discovers a hidden talent, and Lex Luthor returns. Director: Laura Belsey Writers: Don Whitehead & Holly Henderson IMDB link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11199024/?ref_=ttep_ep9 Join The Starling Tribune each week as we stream live on Thursday Evenings at 7:30 PM eastern or 6:30 PM Central at www.geeks.live. Join the fun chatroom and interact with the hosts live. Contact us: @StarlingTribune - starlingtribune@gmail.com - www.starlingtribune.com - www.facebook.com/starlingtribune - 612-888-CAVE or 612-888-2283.   Starling Tribune is proud to be a member of the GonnaGeek network found at GonnaGeek.com. For more geeky podcast visit GonnaGeek.com.   You can find us wherever you can listen to podcasting including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Pandora, on Amazon Alexa, and iHeartRadio under ''Starling Tribune." 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