All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series If I'm going to be riding my team really hard, how much charisma will I need to keep the team frightened so they stay motivated, yet don't want to leave? This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Mike Johnson. Our guest is Jason Fruge (@jasonfruge), CISO, Rent-a-Center. Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Expel Expel offers companies of all shapes and sizes the capabilities of a modern Security Operations Center without the cost and headache of managing one. In this episode CISO's second job: applying lessons learned from the first one Experts weigh in on what to do when a breach drops malware on you How to motivate staff to push themselves beyond initial expectations? What level of autonomy do you give your staff to make purchase decisions?