All links and images for this episode can be found on CISO Series Managing my own risk is tough enough, but now I have to worry about my partners' risk and their partners' risk? I don't even know what's easier to manage: the risk profile of all my third parties or all the exclusions I've got to open up to let third parties into my system. This week’s episode is hosted by me, David Spark (@dspark), producer of CISO Series and Mike Johnson. Our sponsored guest is Bruce Potter (@gdead), CISO, Expel. Thanks to our podcast sponsor, Expel Expel offers companies of all shapes and sizes the capabilities of a modern Security Operations Center without the cost and headache of managing one. In this episode: What's easier to manage, 3rd party risk profiles or exclusions? Do you need a Git repository to apply for a job? What else? What's in your happy-grab-bag for hybrid work environments? Is there anything new to say about ransomware strategy?